X60 with sierra5720 wwan works with hsdpa?

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X60 with sierra5720 wwan works with hsdpa?

#1 Post by OMNIBUS » Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:04 am

hallo
i bought a new motherboard to swap the broken one of my X60s and now i have a 1706-E3U X60 motherboard with wwan and sierra5720 card using verizon EV-DO.
i bought it from usa...but here in Italia, i never heard the verizon, or the EV-DO system; infact the system doesn't find any net with my sim card!
we use 3G with HSDPA or UHSDPA up to 7,2mbit!
so my question is can i uninstall verizon drivers and install vodafone drivers with this sierra 5720 card to get HSDPA?
or how to get it?
i have to buy a new card? if yes which one could let me 7,2 mbit connection?
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Re: X60 with sierra5720 wwan works with hsdpa?

#2 Post by bill bolton » Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:49 am

OMNIBUS wrote:so my question is can i uninstall verizon drivers and install vodafone drivers with this sierra 5720 card to get HSDPA?
No, that card simply will not work with 3G UTMS/HSDPA connections.

Its your call what you do, but you'd probably be better off using an external USB 3G device with an X60 than trying to find a currently available internal card that will fit your X60.

I use a Sierra 880U USB device with my X61 for 7.2Mbps 3G service on the 850MHz and 2100MHz bands, and it works very well.

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Re: X60 with sierra5720 wwan works with hsdpa?

#3 Post by EOMtp » Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:52 pm

OMNIBUS wrote:i have to buy a new card? if yes which one could let me 7,2 mbit connection?
If you want an internal 7.2Mbps HSDPA card, then check if you have a SIM card holder -- remove the "door" on the bottom of the X60 and look for a SIM card holder that looks like this:
http://10ninox.com/img/sim_slot.jpg

If you have a SIM card holder (and I suspect you do since you had a WWAN card), then you can use an unlocked Sierra Wireless MC8775 or MC8780 (Note: There are unconfirmed reports that the Ericsson F3507g does not work in the X60/s.) If the cards are not Lenovo-branded, then you will need to use a modified BIOS and tape Pin-20 of the card.

The least expensive option is to use an HP-branded MC8775 which has been unlocked. They are relatively inexpensive on eBay. The newest firmware supports 7.2Mbps HSDPA. Here is a search on eBay Italy:
http://shop.ebay.it/items/_W0QQLHQ5fAva ... &_osacat=0

Finally, if you find an unlocked AirCard 875U or 880U, then you can use that device in a USB connection ..or.. you can take out the MC8775 or MC8780 card found inside those devices and use the card in the WWAN Mini-PCIe slot on the X60.

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Re: X60 with sierra5720 wwan works with hsdpa?

#4 Post by OMNIBUS » Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:49 pm

first of all thankyou EOMtp,
yes , i have the sim card holder! the model is 1706-E3U
but i have some question:
i see, in HMM, that the mc8775 is only for X61 ...but can an X60 use it?
for X60 i see there is the cingular HSDPA; it's good for all the world gsm net?
the HP unlocked card works in X60 without modify bios? if not, where to find modified bios?
i see that there are some mc8775 up to 7,2 and some to 3,6 mbit; the auction says that the 7,2 one are updete with new firmware, so could i update the firmware to enabling 8775 up to 7,2 or i have to buy one with newest firmware?
the issue of modifying bios and tape pin 20, is for mc8775 pull out from an unlocked aircard 8775U?
which is the difference between mc8775 and mc8780?
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Re: X60 with sierra5720 wwan works with hsdpa?

#5 Post by bill bolton » Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:29 pm

OMNIBUS wrote:is the cingular HSDPA; it's good for all the world gsm net?
There is no internal card which will work with all HSPDA systems worldwide (and some 3G operators will only let devices they have sold connect to their service in any case).

There are HSDPA cards, and USB devices, which do 850MHz/1900MHz/2100MHz bands, or cards which do 900MHz/1900MHz/2100MHz bands, but none which do all 4 bands (well there is theoretically one that does, but no one I know has ever been able to actually get their hands on it).

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Re: X60 with sierra5720 wwan works with hsdpa?

#6 Post by EOMtp » Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:13 pm

OMNIBUS wrote:... i have some question:
1) i see, in HMM, that the mc8775 is only for X61 ...but can an X60 use it?
2) for X60 i see there is the cingular HSDPA; it's good for all the world gsm net?
3) the HP unlocked card works in X60 without modify bios? if not, where to find modified bios?
4) i see that there are some mc8775 up to 7,2 and some to 3,6 mbit; the auction says that the 7,2 one are updete with new firmware, so could i update the firmware to enabling 8775 up to 7,2 or i have to buy one with newest firmware?
5) the issue of modifying bios and tape pin 20, is for mc8775 pull out from an unlocked aircard 8775U
6) which is the difference between mc8775 and mc8780?
thankyou
1) Yes, with modified BIOS + taping Pin-20.
2) No -- the "native" Lenovo GSM card for the X60/s was the MC8755, which is NOT a quad-band card. Forget the MC8755. European 3G runs in the 2100Mhz band. An unlocked MC8775 will work perfectly anyplace in Europe. As Bill Bolton mentioned above, you need a quad-band card if you insist on world-wide coverage. I know of no quad-band Mini-PCIe HSPA card which will work in an X60/s, even with a modified BIOS.
3) No MC8775 (Lenovo or non-Lenovo) works in any X60/s without modified BIOS. If/when you need a modified BIOS, ask here and then check your Private Messages (PM) to see if anyone has sent it to you.
4) Any MC8775 can be updated with the newest firmware which supports 7.2 HSDPA. Ask here if/when you need the newest MC8775 firmware. There is no cost for either the modified BIOS nor the newest MC8775 firmware.
5) Yes -- any MC8775, regardless of where it came from.
6) Not much after you install the newest firmware on the MC8775. The 8780 has two antenna connection points for "diversity", whereas the MC8775 has only one. Consequently, the MC8780 will get closer to the theoretical 7.2Mbps than the MC8775 in marginal signal strength areas. Details here:
http://www.sierrawireless.com/product/e ... rison.aspx

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Re: X60 with sierra5720 wwan works with hsdpa?

#7 Post by OMNIBUS » Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:36 am

really thanks BILL and especially to EOMtp for patience! :thumbs-UP:
i think i just need the european coverage that is 850, 1800, 2100
but usually i like to know to grow-up my knowledge..if i can do it!
i have two antennas in my pc; a main antenna that comes from lcd lid and an aux antenna that is on the card(actually mc5720) so do you think that i can use the mc8780, just because i have already two antennas?
i think i'll buy an unlocked aircard 8780U just because i can use it with usb too ..so with other pc!
but i've not understand ...i see that aircard use a battery :?: :?: is it not enough the usb to give power to aircard or what?
here we use internet key without battery; just put the sim inside and connect to usb and it works!so now i'm confused about using of battery on that aircard; why it needs a battery?
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Re: X60 with sierra5720 wwan works with hsdpa?

#8 Post by EOMtp » Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:49 am

OMNIBUS wrote:...i see that aircard use a battery :?: :?: is it not enough the usb to give power to aircard or what? ...
Sierra Wireless decided to use a battery in the USB enclosures of those cards in case the cards need maximum power in fringe areas. The USB enclosure is designed so that the device does not operate without a battery or without the battery cover. No excuse for why it is like that -- it just is ... and for no good reason. As a practical matter, the device will operate even if the battery is essentially dead.

The second antenna in your X60 can be connected to the AUX antenna connector on the MC8780.

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