Need some help on deciding what screen to replace my laptop

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Need some help on deciding what screen to replace my laptop

#1 Post by fry112 » Mon Nov 23, 2009 2:08 pm

Ok I have a thinkpad T60 1953-EAU

Now on ebay you can get a nice screen for a good amount of money! so I am pretty good at working on think pads but never done a full screen replace
a bunch for some reason on ebay all of the 15 inch screens for T60 say widescreen! and I am smart enough to know this thing is no widescreen!

let me know if this setup would work


http://cgi.ebay.com/A-NEW-IBM-THINKPAD- ... 518e2df149

or this one

http://cgi.ebay.com/LENOVO-THINKPAD-T60 ... 2a01645b89

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Re: Need some help on deciding what screen to replace my laptop

#2 Post by RealBlackStuff » Mon Nov 23, 2009 2:55 pm

Unless you changed it, your screen is the standard/normal 15" XGA (1024x768 resolution). That's a 4:3 ratio screen.
You can replace it with another of the same ratio, such as the SXGA+ (1400x1050) from your 2nd selection.
The first WXGA one is a widescreen and won't fit.

If you go the SXGA+ way, you can use the same LCD-cable, but you'll also need a new inverter P/N 42T0079.

Big BUT: a few people have bought T60 screens on eBay which turned out NOT to work because of a missing EDID, so check and double-check and demand a free return if it does not work.
Otherwise buy in our market forum, where a fit is guaranteed.
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#3 Post by fry112 » Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:21 pm

Thats why I love this forum ! because you guys really know what u are talking about! I just upgraded my inverter cause I thought that is why my screen was so dark and its a P/N 42T0079

So here is the choice I am going with let me know what u guys think! he has a great rating.


http://cgi.ebay.com/LENOVO-THINKPAD-T60 ... 2a01645b89

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Re: Need some help on deciding what screen to replace my laptop

#4 Post by richk » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:15 pm

First, I assume you have no warranty left, because a free XGA screen might be better than an SXGA+ screen you pay for.

Assuming the screen works in an T60 (right eeid), the inverter you bought is the right one and the screen is the right size.

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#5 Post by bhtooefr » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:05 am

Also, consider UXGA and QXGA screens, if it's not too high resolution for you. 1600x1200 or 2048x1536.
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#6 Post by fry112 » Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:36 pm

Even if I had a warranty I wouldn't want another XGA screen I have owned many think-pads and this screen in the dumps !! washed out, dark and ugly and my friend also has this T60 and his looks the same he upgraded to the one I purchased and now his computer looks amazing!!! to me there no debate about this screen ! put it beside any newer computer and it just looks terrible!

I got a glossy screen with brilliant colors my friends installed his last week and I am amazed ! so if you have an original T60 get rid of the screen and you will see something amazing!!

1600x1200 or 2048x1536 yeah thats a little high for me ! Although thats a great size for photoshop

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Re: Need some help on deciding what screen to replace my laptop

#7 Post by bhtooefr » Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:19 pm

Many of us don't care for the glossy TN crap that manufacturers try to foist on people. ;)

IPS (what IBM/Lenovo calls FlexView) has great color rendition at any angle, even if they don't "pop out" at you. I'll take IPS's accuracy over TN's inflated contrast ratios any day.
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#8 Post by fry112 » Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:53 am

Yeah I love the flex-view screens but thats just not something you really see selling on places like ebay or amazon! and I understand that most think-pad people don't care about the gloss! but this T60 screen regardless is not something to brag about. See with thinkpad the only thing that separates it from its older machines is that quality of the new technology like faster processors,Fingerprint readers, and Screens ! but with the T60 screen they took it back to 1991.

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#9 Post by RealBlackStuff » Wed Nov 25, 2009 8:04 am

Would you mind telling us the manufacturer and the Mfg. part number(s) of that glossy screen you got on eBay?
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Re: Need some help on deciding what screen to replace my laptop

#10 Post by bhtooefr » Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:19 am

fry112 wrote:Yeah I love the flex-view screens but thats just not something you really see selling on places like ebay or amazon!
O RLY?

http://search.ebay.com/310136216261 (the other result for that FRU number is a "compatible" panel, meaning it isn't that. I'd be sure to ask that seller, though.)

Of course, you said these were too high resolution, but...

http://search.ebay.com/370294157194 (1600x1200)
http://search.ebay.com/310105845382 (same, although overpriced - all the other results for that part are "compatible")
http://search.ebay.com/310105845450 (same seller as the last one, slightly better part, rather uncommon, but cheaper, oddly)

Looks like the supply of IAQX10Ns has dried up somewhat, though, although there are some listed on Google for less than those 1600x1200 panels.
fry112 wrote:but this T60 screen regardless is not something to brag about. See with thinkpad the only thing that separates it from its older machines is that quality of the new technology like faster processors,Fingerprint readers, and Screens ! but with the T60 screen they took it back to 1991.
All 14.1" ThinkPads have had the same LCD technology for the entire time they've been available, BTW - TN. And, 1024x768 15.0" ThinkPads were always TN. If you got a 1400x1050 panel from the factory, it would've been IPS.
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Re: Need some help on deciding what screen to replace my laptop

#11 Post by fry112 » Thu Nov 26, 2009 8:41 am

This is a 15inch screen not 14

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#12 Post by bhtooefr » Thu Nov 26, 2009 8:55 am

I'm aware (and the panels I linked were 15",) I'm just saying, 14.1" ThinkPads have been like that the whole time.
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#13 Post by fry112 » Thu Nov 26, 2009 5:39 pm

Yeah and and those computers arnt the problem, the only bad screen I have seen has been on the thinkpad T60 1953 it really looks terrible .

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#14 Post by fry112 » Sat Nov 28, 2009 7:49 pm

Ok just put the screen in and I will take some pictures tommorow !!! but This screen is amazing!! I feel like i just bought a new computer !! all of the colors are bright and crisp and the blacks are actually black.



Love it !!

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#15 Post by RealBlackStuff » Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:42 am

RealBlackStuff wrote:Would you mind telling us the manufacturer and the Mfg. part number(s) of that glossy screen you got on eBay?
Thanks much.
We'd still appreciate this info!
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#16 Post by fry112 » Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:37 am

To be honest with you I have no idea !!

here is the seller/Product

http://cgi.ebay.com/LENOVO-THINKPAD-T60 ... 2a01645b89


The screen is very vivid though I am laying in bed using it right now so I will take a couple of snapshots and upload now

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#17 Post by RealBlackStuff » Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:53 am

There's a small program that can tell you what LCD is in yours.
Moninfo.exe here: http://www.download3k.com/Install-Monit ... nager.html
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#18 Post by fry112 » Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:09 am

Image

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The only negative it my computer lost almost 25 mins battery life due to the new screen upgrade but in return I got a really nice bright and crisp screen!!

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#19 Post by fry112 » Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:12 am

used the program and here is what it turned up!


Monitor
Manufacturer............. Lenovo
Plug and Play ID......... LEN4042
Data string.............. LP150E07-TL03
Serial number............ n/a
Manufacture date......... 2005, ISO week 0
-------------------------
EDID revision............ 1.3
Input signal type........ Digital
Color bit depth.......... Undefined
Display type............. RGB color
Screen size.............. 300 x 230 mm (14.9 in)
Power management......... Standby, Suspend, Active off/sleep
Extension blocs.......... None
-------------------------
DDC/CI................... Not supported

Color characteristics
Default color space...... Non-sRGB
Display gamma............ 2.20
Red chromaticity......... Rx 0.590 - Ry 0.343
Green chromaticity....... Gx 0.319 - Gy 0.539
Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0.154 - By 0.133
White point (default).... Wx 0.313 - Wy 0.328
Additional descriptors... None

Timing characteristics
Range limits............. Not available
GTF standard............. Not supported
Additional descriptors... None
Preferred timing......... Yes
Native/preferred timing.. 1400x1050p at 60Hz (4:3)
Modeline............... "1400x1050" 108.000 1400 1448 1560 1688 1050 1051 1054 1066 -hsync -vsync
Detailed timing #1....... 1400x1050p at 50Hz (4:3)
Modeline............... "1400x1050" 89.970 1400 1448 1560 1688 1050 1051 1054 1066 -hsync -vsync

Standard timings supported
640 x 480p at 60Hz - IBM VGA
800 x 600p at 60Hz - VESA
1024 x 768p at 60Hz - VESA
1280 x 1024p at 60Hz - VESA STD

Report information
Date generated........... 11/29/2009
Software revision........ 2.42.0.820
Operating system......... 6.1.7100.2

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#20 Post by fry112 » Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:14 am

Also I bought the screen for $100 but immediately after I bought it the seller changed the price to $200

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#21 Post by RealBlackStuff » Sun Nov 29, 2009 3:06 pm

Thanks, that's an LG Philips screen, not a glossy one as you describe, but a standard matte one.
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Re: Need some help on deciding what screen to replace my laptop

#22 Post by Troels » Sun Nov 29, 2009 3:58 pm

Here's a data sheet:
http://www.gblcd.com/datacenter/lg_Phil ... 7-TL02.pdf

The only difference between TL02 and TL03 is most likely just the coating difference. It's a TN panel, but with a minimum allowed contrast ratio of 350:1. Not bad :)

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#23 Post by fry112 » Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:07 pm

Glossy Matte??! Almost identical don't be an [censored]!



I only said glossy because that was the what the seller was stating , Although the Matte looks better than the glossy screen on my sony so I guess I got the better screen.

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Re: Need some help on deciding what screen to replace my laptop

#24 Post by emeraldgirl08 » Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:10 pm

I like the screen Fry :)

and your laptop! Looks very nice :thumbs-UP:
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#25 Post by fry112 » Sun Nov 29, 2009 5:31 pm

Thanks much love!!

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