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Very slim, very small, very cool!. Makes my A31 look really fat lol!Harryc wrote:I'm interested in comments on features and design too, negative or positive
I haven't seen one of these "up close" before, in fact the only two ThinkPads I've EVER seen in real life are the A31 and the R40. Never seen any others in real life!Harryc wrote:I'm sure many of you have never seen one
Me for instance... Are these models popular in the US?Harryc wrote:I'm sure many of you have never seen one
Perhaps you might consider making the leap to Windows 7 with a solid state hard drive. This would take you from "Holy Grail" directly to that mythical "Ascension".Harryc wrote:I'd have to say that popular is probably not a term I'd associate with the Z models. They were offered for a short time off of the Lenovo US site. I am not sure if they were ever offered worldwide or not. According to TABOOK, they were introduced in May of 2006 and withdrawn from marketing in September of 2007, never to be seen again. The rarity of the higher end Z61's is due to the fact that only (2) models were ever released with the WXGA+ LCD and the T7200 combination. Even the one pictured in this thread is not one of those. It started life with a WXGA LCD.
I think Z models were offered worldwide as I saw them offered even here in Latvia (!) in some local internet shops. Unfortunately, it was out of my price range at that time as I was just a university student in those days. It seems that I bought an R51e instead. If I remember correctly Z models were marketed as multimedia ThinkPads and being completely non-multimedia person I did not pay any special attention to them. The Holy Grail for me at that time was T60. But now I can really appreciate how brave the design of Z series was. I suppose that at the time of release many die hard ThinkPad users complained about the round corners, widescreen and silver lid etc., all the stuff as one can read now about the ThinkPad Edge. It may be that that was the first time were the phrase "This is not ThinkPad" was invented.I'd have to say that popular is probably not a term I'd associate with the Z models. They were offered for a short time off of the Lenovo US site. I am not sure if they were ever offered worldwide or not.
I'm pretty sure the i Series would have gotten a couple of these comments in their time.Eudoxus wrote:It may be that that was the first time were the phrase "This is not ThinkPad" was invented.
Looks like a very nice machine, Harry, and can't argue with the specs. Nice pictures, too.Harryc wrote:I tried for a year to locate this model of Z61T with a Titanium lid. Thanks to the generosity of a Forum Member, I was able to get this machine for very little money. It had a bad LCD. Everything is fixed now and below is where it currently sits as far as configuration. I couldn't be more stoked about it...it's the Holy Grail for me
Any Z61t could have Core 2 Duo, but as far as I know all the Z61ts that were released during the Napa Refresh cycle (autumn 2006) and had Core 2 Duo factory installed, had DVI passthrough capabilities.Cunha wrote:I don't think that -All- core 2 duo Z61t's have the DVI pass through as there are specific model numbers that had the DVI pass through which do not incorporate all of the ones that could have a Core 2 Duo IIRC (my girlfriends for instance)
It's a CTO, so in fact there are hundreds of custom configurations, and the hardware manual won't be able to tell you which parts are included in your machine. There were dozens of CTO configurations without DVI support, and just as many with...Cunha wrote:Its a 9440-CTO with a T5500 on the build sheet (i am looking at the box) when I checked that model number was not supposed to have dvi pass through
While Z61t is lighter than a T60, this is not a fair comparison. A T60 will only weight 5.5lbs with a 9-cell battery and only if it is also loaded inside with two RAM sticks, WiFi/WWAN/third antenna. On the other hand, 4.4lbs with Z61t is only with black lid (not titanium, and 4cell battery), and even there I think it still ways a bit more (towards 4.6lbs), even though I cannot be sure, cause I never weighed it.Harryc wrote: Dimensions for z61t
Depth 9 in
Height 1.2 in
Weight 4.4 lbs
Width 13.1 in
Dimensions for t60p with a 14.1
Depth 10 in
Height 1.2 in
Weight 5.5 lbs
Width 12.2 in
People surely did complain about the widescreen, but the Z61t wasn't the first to have a silver lid. My 9-year-old 240Z has a silver lid.Eudoxus wrote:I suppose that at the time of release many die hard ThinkPad users complained about the round corners, widescreen and silver lid etc.
I saw a Z-series at Staples as well several years back. It was a 15.4" model and I thought it looked repulsive! The 14.1" Z61t is a much better-looking machine IMO. I actually owned one for a while and liked it very much.Cunha wrote:These models were one of few I was able to handle at a local "staples" store before I ever owned a thinkpad.
"4.4 lbs" might be the "starting weight", which means the smallest battery, the lowest-resolution screen, one stick of RAM, no wireless cards, and the optical drive replaced with a travel bezel. The non-titanium Z61t that I owned weighed 4.71 lb, which included a 1440x900 screen (most likely slightly heavier than 1280x800), the optical drive plugged in, a wireless card and 4-cell battery. Can't remember if it had one or two RAM sticks, but that wouldn't matter much since a typical SODIMM weighs only 0.015 lb.dr_st wrote:While Z61t is lighter than a T60, this is not a fair comparison. A T60 will only weight 5.5lbs with a 9-cell battery and only if it is also loaded inside with two RAM sticks, WiFi/WWAN/third antenna. On the other hand, 4.4lbs with Z61t is only with black lid (not titanium, and 4cell battery), and even there I think it still ways a bit more (towards 4.6lbs), even though I cannot be sure, cause I never weighed it.
I totally enjoyed your photo review --.
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