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wanna buy thinkpad help??

#1 Post by scusyxx » Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:47 am

Hi to all thinkpad users

I'd like to buy a new Thinkpad T42 but i wasn't able to find one which satisfies my needs(14.1SXGA+ , 60GB HDD, 512RAM, Bluetooth, FingerprintReader, 64MB ATI RADEON 9600 , Pentium M 1.7GHz or 1.8GHz).
Do you know any model consists of these specifications?

Thanks in advance...

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#2 Post by Schwaby » Tue Feb 22, 2005 2:03 am

2373-m3u fits your requirements

Check the tabook
ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/pc/pcinstitu ... tabook.pdf

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#3 Post by scusyxx » Tue Feb 22, 2005 2:31 am

Thank you very much.
I have another question, I checked IBM's official website but they do not sell this model however some pc malls do. May I trust these web sites such as (CDW, PCNation, CostCentral etc..)?

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#4 Post by davidlg16 » Tue Feb 22, 2005 3:56 am

i just checked http://www.ibm.com/education/us/

they have m3u for 10 days wait
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#5 Post by scusyxx » Tue Feb 22, 2005 4:22 am

Is it possible to use this discount? but I am not an education emloyee or student.

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#6 Post by Leon » Tue Feb 22, 2005 9:43 am

no, you cannot... but search for visa/mc discounts.. they are often similar..... also, check with Bill (host of this forum, www.thinkpads.com)l.. he may have similar models at a good price
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#7 Post by nomoredells » Tue Feb 22, 2005 4:23 pm

>Well, actually, most likely you can. Follow the link through and pick your state and you'll see "student and alumni" purchases link. So if you are an alumnus/ae of a higher education institution, I believe you can use this link.
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OK, I followed it through for my state and never saw a list of the applicable colleges or universities. At what point does the list appear?

Nonny

Edited: Now this is strange. I know I hit the "quote" button rather than the "edit" button because I had to delete all the "quote" tags out. But it looks like the message got edited instead. How odd!

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#8 Post by Leon » Tue Feb 22, 2005 5:33 pm

yes, to clarify, IF he is a student or alumni of the institutions listed, he may buy from those links......

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#9 Post by dfumento » Tue Feb 22, 2005 6:03 pm

It might be alot cheaper to buy a 2378FVU and upgrade the warranty and the hardware you want. You can order the unit with Bluetooth or install it later yourself. Follow the link in my signature.
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#10 Post by davidlg16 » Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:09 am

scusyxx wrote:Is it possible to use this discount? but I am not an education emloyee or student.
I really dont think they check if you are really a student/alumni...some ppl might disagree w/me

I recently purchased a 2378FVU with the student/alumni discount. I called and the guy never asked any info regarding my school.

I've had the laptop for about a month now and still no verification.
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#11 Post by Leon » Wed Feb 23, 2005 9:12 am

this has been covered before.. they DO random verification, and if they do and it is not valid can/will charge the CC the diff, invalidate the warranty, and take further action. IBM has teams of lawyers. Morals aside, doing this if fraud and cleanly not worth the risk....

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#12 Post by Esteban » Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:47 pm

I purchased a T42 2373m3u last week. It shipped 3 days after ordering. Much faster than the phone salesperson and email order confirmation indicated. Very pleased with my first ThinkPad. Just starting to set it up. It's light and very quiet.

I purchased with the alumni discount. Months ago I asked an edu. salesperson if that's ok and she answered, yes. With my recent order I again asked the phone salesperson if it's ok to buy as an alumni, of Cal Poly SLO, and he said yes. The discounts from

http://www.ibm.com/education/us seem to match the credit card discounts from the various businesscenter sites.

If I was currently a student my discount thru a college computer shop or bookstore may have been much hundreds of dollars more per quotes I've read here.

There was conflicting information from IBM about the hard drive speed. The IBM website on some pages described it as 5400 rpm and on others 7200 rpm. The email order confirmation showed 60 MB 5400 rpm. I called back the IBM phone salesperson who assured me it's 7200 rpm as described in the TAbook. Is there a way to check and confirm this on my new M3U?

My opinion is the M3U is a very good buy only if it comes with a 7200 rpm HD. They cost about $150 to buy as an after market upgrade. If the M3U was to come with a 60 MB 5400 rpm HD it'd be overpriced in comparison to an upgraded FVU.
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#13 Post by gazingwa » Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:52 pm

pull it out and check the model number
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#14 Post by Leon » Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:00 pm

Esteban wrote:I purchased with the alumni discount. Months ago I asked an edu. salesperson if that's ok and she answered, yes. With my recent order I again asked the phone salesperson if it's ok to buy as an alumni, of Cal Poly SLO, and he said yes.
As I stated above, IBM allows legitimate Alumni discounts, and they are almost identical to MC/VISA discounts....

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#15 Post by Esteban » Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:12 pm

In Device Manager my hard drive is shown to be HTS726060M9ATOO. Does that enable anyone to to tell me it's speed?
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#16 Post by Esteban » Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:21 pm

Leon, I think that, as well spoken as most participants here are, many people may be college alumni who would benefit from the greater model availablitiy of the edu. site and it's discounts, but don't know either are available to them. Wholly on the up and up.
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#17 Post by Leon » Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:31 pm

Absolutely agreed! I am just clarifying for those few who have suggested directly or indirectly that IBM doesn't verify (in the case that they weren't eligible). As one who has overseen the purchase of many hundreds of Thinkpads in the past, I know for a fact that they DO spot verifications, and want to give them a "heads up" of the risks. The choice, as always, is theirs.

On another note, the overt discussion of gaining any illegitimate discount (not referring to this thread) unfairly puts our gracious host at risk, and is NOT tolerated on this board.

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Re: HTS726060M9AT00

#18 Post by MobileGuru » Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:46 pm

Esteban wrote:In Device Manager my hard drive is shown to be HTS726060M9ATOO. Does that enable anyone to to tell me it's speed?
The answer is in the question grasshopper ... HTS is the manufacturer, in this case Hitachi, the 72 indicates 7200RPM, the 60 refers to the size of the drive.

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#19 Post by aamsel » Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:18 pm

I am an eligible alumnus of a qualifying university, also a qualifying state employee. Looking at this website, I don't see any "screaming deals", nothing that looks any better than the MC/VISA cost of the 2378FVU. Is there a "deal" on a T42 model there that I am missing??

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Esteban wrote:Leon, I think that, as well spoken as most participants here are, many people may be college alumni who would benefit from the greater model availablitiy of the edu. site and it's discounts, but don't know either are available to them. Wholly on the up and up.

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#20 Post by Esteban » Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:36 pm

Thank you kind MobileGuru. I feel better with confirmation my M3U does have a 7200 rpm HD. I'm in the process of setting up, and checking out, my new ThinkPad. Following some of the info. in the "Sticky: FAQ: Read Before You Buy! (2378FVU recommended) and after"

To the original poster of this thread. Hope you don't feel that I've hijacked it.
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#21 Post by kev009 » Wed Feb 23, 2005 5:16 pm

No reason to lie about the student discount.. the Visa/MC discounts seem to be every bit as good?? How does the stockholder discount compare however?
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#22 Post by Esteban » Wed Feb 23, 2005 5:19 pm

I am an eligible alumnus of a qualifying university, also a qualifying state employee. Looking at this website, I don't see any "screaming deals", nothing that looks any better than the MC/VISA cost of the 2378FVU. Is there a "deal" on a T42 model there that I am missing??

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Andrew, I read about the 2373M3U in a thread in the X series forum. It seemed to have everthing I reasonably wanted. Sort of a like a souped up FVU.

When I tried to find it on the Visa/MC sites, and another for my trade assn., it wasn't offered on any of them. The advantage of the edu. site IMHO is that it seems to have many more models available, not the best prices.

I was first drawn to buying an FVU for $1,484. After adding on the likely cost of upgrades (RAM, 3 yr warrantee, 60 MB 7200 rpm HD, perhaps bluetooth) I concluded the 2373M3U, $1,895, had all I wanted, indeed more, at a fair price in comparison to buying, and upgrading, a FVU.

The M3U is a stock IBM model covered by a 3 yr IBM warantee. Already upgraded saving me time, trouble, & perhaps from unforseen complications. Upgrades to a FVU wouldn't be covered by IBM warantees-an added value in favor of the M3U.

I might have contacted past clients who retired from IBM and saved many hundred$ with EPP prices. With Do Not Call rules it might be illegal, expen$ive, to call them. So I didn't. And paid IBM more.

So, seek out the best discount you're elligible for. Perhaps, in your case, it may be state discounts.
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#23 Post by Esteban » Wed Feb 23, 2005 8:37 pm

scusyxx, who started this thread wrote:
Thank you very much.
I have another question, I checked IBM's official website but they do not sell this model however some pc malls do. May I trust these web sites such as (CDW, PCNation, CostCentral etc..)?
You'll probably pay hundreds of dollar$ too much if you buy thru any of the above vendors. Nor will they match IBM's 30 day return guarantee and 30 day price protection. Also IBM often offers promotions, like free shipping, and recently, a free second battery -- kind of a hidden discount / added value

Better, than using one of the above vendors, to buy from Bill, the host of this forum http://www.thinkpads.com

Or buy directly from one of IBM's discounts sites like http://www.ibm.com/businesscenter/visa

If the edu site http://www.ibm.com/education/us offers a model that the credit card discount site doesn't (and you're not a student or alumni) ask them, on the phone, if they'll sell the model you want and match the edu. web price. No guarantee it'll work. It'd seem worth the effort.

The best buys, by far, are for IBM employees, and their friends.


EDIT: As I edit this formating has become difficult and extraneous urls symbols show. Oh, well.
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#24 Post by feathertop » Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:58 am

Where is that free battery deal?
Esteban wrote:scusyxx, who started this thread wrote:
Thank you very much.
I have another question, I checked IBM's official website but they do not sell this model however some pc malls do. May I trust these web sites such as (CDW, PCNation, CostCentral etc..)?
You'll probably pay hundreds of dollar$ too much if you buy thru any of the above vendors. Nor will they match IBM's 30 day return guarantee and 30 day price protection. Also IBM often offers promotions, like free shipping, and recently, a free second battery -- kind of a hidden discount / added value

Better, than using one of the above vendors, to buy from Bill, the host of this forum http://www.thinkpads.com

Or buy directly from one of IBM's discounts sites like http://www.ibm.com/businesscenter/visa

If the edu site http://www.ibm.com/education/us offers a model that the credit card discount site doesn't (and you're not a student or alumni) ask them, on the phone, if they'll sell the model you want and match the edu. web price. No guarantee it'll work. It'd seem worth the effort.

The best buys, by far, are for IBM employees, and their friends.


EDIT: As I edit this formating has become difficult and extraneous urls symbols show. Oh, well.

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#25 Post by CoolRunnings » Fri Feb 25, 2005 11:31 am

I have an M3U and mine came with the 7200 also. I was concerned about that and the fact that they said it came with PC2100 RAM but it was indeed 2700.

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