How can I tell which T410 and T510 models are WWAN ready?

[traveller73]

I am wondering how I can tell which models of ThinkPad are WWAN ready - i.e. has aerial and connections for the new Gobi 2000 2g/3g WWAN card? (I realise some models ship with the 3G card too, but I want to know about the models that don't have the 3g option bundled but can upgrade to that later)

The model I am looking at currently is 2518-CAM which is available here in New Zealand. Neither Lenovo's local distributor or the Lenovo website seem to provide me a clear answer. Also curious about the ThinkPad Edge models available in NZ... but I guess I should post elsewhere about that.

[traveller73]

I just found this about the T400 and T500 and it states that all models are/were WWAN ready:
http://shop.lenovo.com/ISS_Static/merch ... asheet.pdf

I guess then that its likely the same applies for the T410 and T510 despite what I've been told by Lenovo's distribution channel here in NZ? Or is it different outside of the U.S?

[yak]

I just found this about the T400 and T500 and it states that all models are/were WWAN ready:
http://shop.lenovo.com/ISS_Static/merch ... asheet.pdf

I guess then that its likely the same applies for the T410 and T510 despite what I've been told by Lenovo's distribution channel here in NZ? Or is it different outside of the U.S?

Just had a look at T410 HMM and although it is somewhat confusing on this matter as the part list table has separate rows for wireless LAN/MIMO and wireless LAN/MIMO/WAN antennas, they both list the same FRUs (45M2887). Another question is the existence of miniPCIe connector on the board, but AFAIK, the last series which didn't have them in non-WWAN ready models was T60.

So it does looks like all T410 will be WWAN ready, missing the miniPCIe module only. If that's the case, installation at a later time will be very easy as the slot is located under the small cover on the bottom of the machine (just one screw). Of course we can pretty much be sure the notebook will refuse to work with modules not branded by Lenovo.

[traveller73]

Thanks for the info Yak. I am curious where I can find a parts list for any model of ThinkPad? That would make life much easier as I am always trying to find these things out before buying ThinkPads for my customers.

[yak]

Thanks for the info Yak. I am curious where I can find a parts list for any model of ThinkPad? That would make life much easier as I am always trying to find these things out before buying ThinkPads for my customers.

One great thing about ThinkPads is that IBM and now Lenovo make the service manuals public. They call them the Hardware Maintenance Manuals (HMM). They contain instructions on installing/removing all components down to the last pieces. They also have a parts list which show you all possible components with their respective FRUs.

I usually search for them using google as it's the fastest way. For example, "T410 HMM". Usually it's the first result, since T410 is a new model, it's on 4th position right now.

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I've just searched for T510 HMM. There's an error in the link to the PDF on Lenovo's site:
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-74250

The problem is the capital "Y" in the name of the file, the correct one is:
http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc ... 3y0536.pdf

Oh boy, their website management team needs to be fired immediately Errors everywhere.

[skriefal]

Oh boy, their website management team needs to be fired immediately Errors everywhere.

Bad links, web site errors, etc. That's been part of the IBM/Lenovo experience for years.