I need some help with an older Thinkpad 760XL *PICS*

Older ThinkPads.. from the 600, the 7xx, the iSeries, 300, 500, the Transnote and, of course, the 701
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Re: I need some help with an older Thinkpad 760XL *PICS*

#31 Post by BowerR64 » Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:06 pm

Well first i want to say i have never messed with 2000 much so i never really had to mess with the boot files and the boot loader it created. I have it more figured out now. I think if i knew a little more about 2000 and used it a little more i may of figured it out or had the problem before.

First the drive from the toshiba had a problem with the order of the jumpers, its pin config on that drive is different then this IBM so the thinkpad caddy adaptor plug configured the drive to "disable it" why it woul dneed this i dont know. Maybe its like a floppy and you can "lock" it

Once it seen that drive i knew i had it.

I installed ME on both drives differently but using the second machine (my tower home pc) the toshiba one i booted to dos using the ME dos boot like a floppy dos boot but its on the ME disk. Did Fdisk, format, yada yada then coppied all the cab files using the copy *.* comand. Incase the CDrom didnt work. I started the install wich i think just uncompressed all the cabs but doesnt actauly install anything. After the first reboot thats when windows actualy starts to install. The OS asks you to reboot the machine and thats when i pulled the drive.

I did 2 things to the IBM drive i bent the jumper pins (slave, master, drive0) but i also used a program called "killdisk" im not sure wich one actualy worked but doing those 2 things removed the boot section 2000 created on the previous owners install i couldnt seem to get past. Im not sure why a format using fdisk didnt wipe this, or even using a format when installing XP, 2000 ntfs, and fat32 i formated before each install but that boot loader still for some reason hung on. Maybe the jumpers ont he adaptor plug "lock" a sector of the drive from bing formated that bending the jumper pins disables? this im not sure of?

So i installed ME from the disk to the 2.1 stock thinkpad drive, once it was running i installed the 2000 disk and i did a clean install this installed the startup that i was using the 4 floppys for. I didnt need it once ME was installed. It wiped ME and then formated to NTFS and then did a clean install and its now running 2000 fine.

I know the previous owner must of did a 2000 upgrade because when i installed 2000 mine added a boot loader thing too that asked me if i want to boot to windows 9x or 2000 when it first starts up. even though 9x isnt on there it still created a boot loader thing at the start i guess because of the upgrade? It did format 9x off there though because i watched it and also there are no other windows folders.

The default bootloader is set to 30 seconds and when i boot i see it for a bit if i dont push enter to continue to start 2000. I did however change the boot loader time to 0 and now i dont see it. Thats probobly what the previous owner did and it skipped it so i didnt realize it was on there.

So its all good, thanks for everyones help. If you guys find anyone else in this situation ill give em my floppy. I dont need it now

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Re: I need some help with an older Thinkpad 760XL *PICS*

#32 Post by Edward Mendelson » Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:11 pm

BowerR64 wrote: The OS asks you to reboot the machine and thats when i pulled the drive.
That's actually very shrewd - you got the Windows Me CABs expanded on one machine, but let Windows Me install itself on the other machine, so that it recognized the hardware on the machine where it was being installed. Very sharp technique - worth remembering for the future.

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Re: I need some help with an older Thinkpad 760XL *PICS*

#33 Post by BowerR64 » Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:50 pm

Well im not sure where i learned it. Im pretty sure all versions of windows you can do this.

You know the first reboot im talking about right?

when you copy the cab files it just insures that incase there is no drive it will just look into that folder for the rest of the files it needs if it needs more rather then take from the disk.

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Re: I need some help with an older Thinkpad 760XL *PICS*

#34 Post by BowerR64 » Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:52 am

Well now i got it running and 2000 installed the PCMCI nic card wont work and the sound card is to old so the REW program wont work either. wow, all that work for nothing.

Least i learned how to do it i guess. :wink:

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Re: I need some help with an older Thinkpad 760XL *PICS*

#35 Post by TTA » Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:09 am

sorry for not being back sooner. (sick) been in bed for a few and only posted on a few topics.
If you got your OS installed great. to do a 760 you need an external FDD and the recovery boot disk in the FDD If I recall correctly they will not boot to the CD. what we used to do is have a 2nd HDD (they do take two HDD's BTW) and ghost an image from one HDD to the other.
if anyone needs a real copy of a 760XL CD I do have one.
just shoot a PM. I may not see it for a day or two but I will reply and happily send a copy.
T60p/x32/t42p/a31p and about 100 more 8)
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Re: I need some help with an older Thinkpad 760XL

#36 Post by TTA » Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:31 am

95, 98 and ME aren't like Win2k or XP, they will go to one machine to anouther, they will ask for new drivers but it works. I have a 760 FDD here on my desk and a recovery CD, that would have been a heck of a lot easier... just sayin ;)

what I need is a 365XD floppy LOL can't find one for the life of me (and yes I'm sure I have one... or a dozen) someplace.... ;)
T60p/x32/t42p/a31p and about 100 more 8)
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Re: I need some help with an older Thinkpad 760XL

#37 Post by Unknown_K » Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:47 am

TTA wrote:95, 98 and ME aren't like Win2k or XP, they will go to one machine to anouther, they will ask for new drivers but it works. I have a 760 FDD here on my desk and a recovery CD, that would have been a heck of a lot easier... just sayin ;)

what I need is a 365XD floppy LOL can't find one for the life of me (and yes I'm sure I have one... or a dozen) someplace.... ;)
Do you have a picture of your collection online somewhere?
Collection: 310ED, 350C, 360C, 365C, 365XD, 380D, 380XD, 380Z, 390E, 390X, 560X, 600, 600E, 701C, 750CS, 755C, 755CD, 760C, 760CD, 760ED, 760EL, 760XD, 760XL, 765L, 765D, 770, 770E, 770Z, T21, T22, T23, T30, A20P, A21P, A22M, A30, A31, A31P, T40, T42, T43P, T60, T61, R32, R40, R52

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Re: I need some help with an older Thinkpad 760XL

#38 Post by TTA » Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:52 pm

Do you have a picture of your collection online somewhere?
no, on shelves in my garage for the older stuff, 750's 760's 380's, 701's not sure if I have any 700's but I know I have some 755's (I wish I could upgrade a 760XD to a P4 (that would be the ultimate IMHO) just yank the mWave and go nuts:) parts machines here in the office, a couple in the kitchen 3 here on my desk LOL
FYI DO NOT plug an external Toshiba Tecra FD into a 365XD it will short and you'll need to drain the caps to get it back on LOL :)
T60p/x32/t42p/a31p and about 100 more 8)
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Re: I need some help with an older Thinkpad 760XL

#39 Post by Bruce Guttman » Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:57 am

TTA wrote:
...I wish I could upgrade a 760XD to a P4 (that would be the ultimate IMHO) just yank the mWave and go nuts :) ...
When you figure that out, let me know. I have 3 760ELs, a 760XD, and a 765D waiting ... ;)

Back on topic, I have put Windows 2000 on a 760EL. Managed to get the OS running and NOTHING else; that was about all it could do. All my 760s worked well on Windows 98, though.
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New Project: [T420]

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