have w510, can't get 30" 2560x1600 monitor working thru dvi

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have w510, can't get 30" 2560x1600 monitor working thru dvi

#1 Post by pkellner » Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:27 pm

This worked for me on w500, but it keeps showing 1280x800. when I put the resolution in manually, it says test failed and does not work.
any ideas?

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Re: have w510, can't get 30" 2560x1600 monitor working thru dvi

#2 Post by RonS » Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:28 pm

What DVI? Are you using a dock?
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Re: have w510, can't get 30" 2560x1600 monitor working thru dvi

#3 Post by pkellner » Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:32 pm

using the series 3 doc connected to the dvi port. 433710u is the part number for the doc

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Re: have w510, can't get 30" 2560x1600 monitor working thru dvi

#4 Post by RonS » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:30 pm

I just tested it with my W510 and Series 3 Plus dock and I'm having the same problem. Dual-link resolutions (beyond 1900x1200) can't be enabled out the Series 3+ dock. DVI

Look at this page: http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... IGR-4TPJF4

You appear to have the "Thinkpad Mini Dock Plus Series 3" (part 433810U) and I have the "Thinkpad Mini DOck Plus Series 3 for Mobile Workstations" (part 433820U). The only difference, however, is the power supply. The 433820U comes with a 135W power supply for the W510.

Either way, the DVI is documented to be Single-link only. Were you really able to get 2560x1600 (dual-link) out of the dock with your W500?

EDIT: I removed mention that I also tested the DisplayPort output and was limited to 1920x1200 as well. That will always be the case when using a non-active (passive) DisplayPort-to-DVI cable, like I did. I don't have an active DisplayPort-to-DVI cable, or a DisplayPort monitor, to test. So it may still be possible to get beyond 1920x1200 resolution on DVI using either an active cable or DisplayPort monitor.
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Re: have w510, can't get 30" 2560x1600 monitor working thru dvi

#5 Post by pkellner » Thu Feb 11, 2010 2:34 pm

Never got it to work. Had a great conversation with a level 3 support guy at lenovo and we concluded it will not work. It does work perfect on the w500 dock to the dvi port. The cable I have says "Dual Link DVI Cable" and that drives the 2560x1600 perfectly. I returned (sadly) the W510 and am awaiting the next Lenovo rev someday. I can't live without my big monitor.

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#6 Post by RonS » Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:31 pm

The W500 uses the Advanced Dock, which is FAR better than the mini dock plus. The Advanced Dock supports Dual-link DVI, while the mini dock does not. I'm going to write up a post on my opinion of the mini dock plus soon.
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Re: have w510, can't get 30" 2560x1600 monitor working thru dvi

#7 Post by sjhwilkes » Thu Feb 11, 2010 5:01 pm

So if you own a 30" monitor then don't buy a W510 ?
I'm wishing I'd bought a new machine last year more and more, as I would have preferred 1920X1200 also :|

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Re: have w510, can't get 30" 2560x1600 monitor working thru dvi

#8 Post by pkellner » Thu Feb 11, 2010 5:07 pm

I don't think that's quite true. If you have a dual link dvi monitor. I think there are displayport 30" monitors that support 2560x1600. Don't know the perf though.

I do like the 1200 lines myself, but the larger 15.6" was very nice and it was very very clear. Maybe the next rev lenovo will work. I hope they bring the corei7 with the 4 memory slots down to the w500 size.

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#9 Post by RonS » Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:55 pm

If you have a W510 and a single 30" Dual-link DVI monitor, you can an adapter like this one to drive your monitor at 2560x1600 resolution. This is an active adapter, which is what you need. The $30-or-so "passive" adapters won't cut it for resolutions beyond 1920x1200.
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Re: have w510, can't get 30" 2560x1600 monitor working thru dvi

#10 Post by crashnburn » Thu Aug 12, 2010 5:13 am

RonS wrote:If you have a W510 and a single 30" Dual-link DVI monitor, you can an adapter like this one to drive your monitor at 2560x1600 resolution. This is an active adapter, which is what you need. The $30-or-so "passive" adapters won't cut it for resolutions beyond 1920x1200.
Does this adapter support Windows & MacOS both? It should work right?
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W510 4319-2PU: 15.6"FHD/i7-720QM/4G/Win7Pro64 (for dad)
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Re: have w510, can't get 30" 2560x1600 monitor working thru dvi

#11 Post by dr_st » Thu Aug 12, 2010 8:29 am

RonS wrote:The W500 uses the Advanced Dock, which is FAR better than the mini dock plus. The Advanced Dock supports Dual-link DVI, while the mini dock does not. I'm going to write up a post on my opinion of the mini dock plus soon.
Just noticed this comment now.

What about the Advanced Mini-Dock (the previous series)? It has a DVI-D port, and I seem to remember that it should support dual-link DVI, but not sure. Do you know?
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Re: have w510, can't get 30" 2560x1600 monitor working thru dvi

#12 Post by crashnburn » Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:34 am

dr_st wrote:Just noticed this comment now.

What about the Advanced Mini-Dock (the previous series)? It has a DVI-D port, and I seem to remember that it should support dual-link DVI, but not sure. Do you know?
It does. I use the Adv Mini Dock with my 30" LCD at 2560 x 1600 :) Rocks ;)
T61 8892-02U: 14.1"SXGA+/2.2C2D/4G/XP|Adv Mini Dock|30" Gateway XHD3000 WQXGA via Dual-link DVI
X61T 7767-96U: 12.1"SXGA+/1.6C2D/3G/Vista|Ultrabase
W510 4319-2PU: 15.6"FHD/i7-720QM/4G/Win7Pro64 (for dad)
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Re: have w510, can't get 30" 2560x1600 monitor working thru dvi

#13 Post by pkellner » Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:41 am

Are you using display Port or dual dvi?

I spent alot of time with lenovo support and they concluded that it would not work with dual dvi. just displayport.

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Re: have w510, can't get 30" 2560x1600 monitor working thru dvi

#14 Post by crashnburn » Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:02 pm

pkellner wrote:Are you using display Port or dual dvi?

I spent alot of time with lenovo support and they concluded that it would not work with dual dvi. just displayport.
Read my signature :) .. PS: Adv Mini Dock does not have Display Port.. does it?
T61 8892-02U: 14.1"SXGA+/2.2C2D/4G/XP|Adv Mini Dock|30" Gateway XHD3000 WQXGA via Dual-link DVI
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W510 4319-2PU: 15.6"FHD/i7-720QM/4G/Win7Pro64 (for dad)
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Re: have w510, can't get 30" 2560x1600 monitor working thru dvi

#15 Post by pkellner » Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:54 pm

Are you sayIng you can run w510 with dual dvi and dock with no special cable?

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Re: have w510, can't get 30" 2560x1600 monitor working thru dvi

#16 Post by crashnburn » Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:10 pm

pkellner wrote:Are you sayIng you can run w510 with dual dvi and dock with no special cable?
No. I never said that.
dr_st wrote:What about the Advanced Mini-Dock (the previous series)? It has a DVI-D port, and I seem to remember that it should support dual-link DVI, but not sure. Do you know?
I was replying to HIM. Adv Mini Dock 2504-10U from the previous T6x series with a T61 is what I am using for Dual-link DVI-D.

W510: I don't have a dock as yet and have not tested its OUT 'capabilities' / limitations. I'd love to know more. I guess I'll see if/how it can be hooked up to the 30" @ 2560x1600. I am guessing it would need the Mini/DisplayPort to Dual Link DVI Active thingy because... my 30" LCD, I think does not have DisplayPort. If it did then I'd probably be able to do a direct connect.
T61 8892-02U: 14.1"SXGA+/2.2C2D/4G/XP|Adv Mini Dock|30" Gateway XHD3000 WQXGA via Dual-link DVI
X61T 7767-96U: 12.1"SXGA+/1.6C2D/3G/Vista|Ultrabase
W510 4319-2PU: 15.6"FHD/i7-720QM/4G/Win7Pro64 (for dad)
T43 1875-DLU: 14.1"XGA/1.7PM-740/1G/XP (Old)

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