Pop Music

[jronald]

Listen to the first 15 seconds of this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMKHbggh ... re=related
Then the first 30 seconds of this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVc035uvw8Q

Deja Vu?

Ron

[Navck]

Known in the music industry as "resampling."

[BillMorrow]

ok, so i listened..
45 seconds gone, never to return..

some plaster fell from the top of my ear holes and all the bats flew out of the belfry..

i'm still waiting for something that resembles music..
you know, that soothing the savage beast stuff.. melody..?

whether resampled or not neither bore any resemblance to the other AFAIK..

[rkawakami]

Not similar enough to my untrained musical ears to mistake one for the other or to sic a copyright lawyer on Kings of Leon. "Sampling" is the act of using a snippet of a song (drum beat, bassline, guitar riff, etc.) on one of your own, usually because your musicians are nowhere as good as the originals

The ultimate example of this technique was put to questionable use by none other than Robert Plant. He sampled parts from five (?) Led Zeppelin songs for "Tall Cool One".

ref: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiH9yXKSMVM

<-- who usually catches KOL's "Use Somebody" on the radio each day during the commute to work

[dr_st]

Remixing / sampling is acceptable to a degree. Often you see in the track's acknowledgment things like "contains a sample from ... used with permission".

Still, nothing beats this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvujgcbaCF8
For those unversed with pop music, this is the famous Nickelback mix - "Someday" through one speaker, "This is how you remind me" through the other one.

[Norway Pad]

Ha, ha! I have some of Nickelback's cds, and sometimes it strikes me that it's not much variety in their style. But I didn't realize it was this bad.

[rossmosis]

In my opinion, Led Zeppelin is just a glorified cover band, I used to have some respect for them until I learned that they lifted a lot of their most famous songs from blues songs that came before them. Just search it on Youtube, it's pretty depressing.

Also, Nickelback sucks

[killer]

John Lennon did a cover version of Ben E. King's 1958 standard, 'Stand by me'. IMO it was a great tribute.

Led Zeppelin's covers of original blues songs are themselves tributes to the great blues musicians.

Eric Clapton did the same and paid tribute to the original artists. 'Crossroads' was never an English folk song.

The Beach Boys and Procul Harem did covers from Bach. Where does it end?

A man went to the doctor and said I keep thinking I'm Tom Jones. The doctor said, "It's not unusual."

That's all, folks.

[j-dawg]

Hip hop songs are often made almost entirely using a sampler and a drum machine. Example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_g3D_05Hd_Y
Listen to a few seconds of this song (MF DOOM - Gas Drawls). I have no idea what DOOM is ever talking about, if you're wondering what the lyrics mean.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pJ2iw9xieo
The first song's beat is based around, like, five seconds of this song (Black Cow, by Steely Dan, from around 3:20).

So MF DOOM took a few snippets of a Steely Dan song, added a drum machine, and came up with something totally different. It's a good example of how sampling works in hip hop. Should DOOM pay Steely Dan royalties for use of the song? That's a hotly-debated question. But I couldn't tell you anything about Steely Dan having heard the DOOM song, nor do I think Steely Dan really loses anything due to Gas Drawls - rather the opposite, actually.