ibm a/b/g or intel a/b/g and why?

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Scorpiontico · #1 Post by **Scorpiontico** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 3:54 pm

hi all, i just have a quick question for you guys:

-which 1 is better IBM A/B/G or Intel A/B/G and why please?

im into the hunt for a t43, the 266875u has the IBM Wireless...
and the 266872u has the Intel 1, identical models just WIFI difference (that i know).

thanks.

dfumento · #2 Post by **dfumento** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 3:55 pm

They're both good units and they are both give good service.
See FAQ in my signature...

Merlyn_3D · #3 Post by **Merlyn_3D** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 4:09 pm

I would recommend the non-intel solution because intel has some problems with its drivers. Plus, the IBM one is atheros based, which is supposed to be best.

Scorpiontico · #4 Post by **Scorpiontico** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 4:21 pm

Merlyn_3D wrote:I would recommend the non-intel solution because intel has some problems with its drivers. Plus, the IBM one is atheros based, which is supposed to be best.

is your comment based on knowledge or experience?

because if its experience can you please share it.

thanks alot.

s0larian · #5 Post by **s0larian** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:11 pm

Just to get an idea what some people think of an Intel wireless card:

http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=8837

Scorpiontico · #6 Post by **Scorpiontico** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:27 pm

s0larian wrote:Just to get an idea what some people think of an Intel wireless card:

http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=8837

well thanks for the reply but it only refers to the intel b/g 2200 and doesnt say anything about ibm's.

besides that doesnt the intel a/b/g differ from the other ones (intel's)?

thanks.

dfumento · #7 Post by **dfumento** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:31 pm

The FAQ in my sig tells the differences. An industry expert said the Atheros 5004X based one and the Intel 2915 based one are roughly the same.

BranE · #8 Post by **BranE** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 9:18 pm

Try this.

Go to IBM's website and find drivers for the intel a/b/g.

If you find them tell me.

johnport · #9 Post by **johnport** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 10:52 pm

dfumento wrote:The FAQ in my sig tells the differences. An industry expert said the Atheros 5004X based one and the Intel 2915 based one are roughly the same.

Dfumento, I can appreciate that you have taken the time to write the FAQ
at http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=7436
but it is very far from being anywhere near complete about this issue so please stop pimping it like it is the be all/end all or update it.

As of March 11, for wifi mini pci cards it reads:

"802.11 a/b/g TriBand Mini PCI II* *(P/N 73P4301, FRU 93P4262,) uses an Atheros AR5004X is $65 and has extended range over the stock replacable Intel wireless but may consume more power.
There is another a/b/g Mini PCI II (P/N 73P4304) which is based on the Intel Centrino 2915. I've been told that both of these are roughly equal. The Intel is better on compatibility with different wireless routers. The Atheros is a newer design and somewhat better perfoming than the Intel.

You don't even mention "IBM 11a/b/g Wireless LAN Mini PCI Adapter ( 31P9701) " and the 73P4304 currently does not appear on the IBM.com site.

Scorpiontico · #10 Post by **Scorpiontico** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 11:34 pm

johnport wrote:
dfumento wrote:The FAQ in my sig tells the differences. An industry expert said the Atheros 5004X based one and the Intel 2915 based one are roughly the same.
Dfumento, I can appreciate that you have taken the time to write the FAQ
at http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=7436
but it is very far from being anywhere near complete about this issue so please stop pimping it like it is the be all/end all or update it.

As of March 11, for wifi mini pci cards it reads:

"802.11 a/b/g TriBand Mini PCI II* *(P/N 73P4301, FRU 93P4262,) uses an Atheros AR5004X is $65 and has extended range over the stock replacable Intel wireless but may consume more power.
There is another a/b/g Mini PCI II (P/N 73P4304) which is based on the Intel Centrino 2915. I've been told that both of these are roughly equal. The Intel is better on compatibility with different wireless routers. The Atheros is a newer design and somewhat better perfoming than the Intel.

You don't even mention "IBM 11a/b/g Wireless LAN Mini PCI Adapter ( 31P9701) " and the 73P4304 currently does not appear on the IBM.com site.

wow! if the ibm 1 consumes more power then i'd rather go with the intel 1 and sacrifice a bit of performance... wouldn't you agree?

thanks a bunch.

BranE · #11 Post by **BranE** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 3:43 am

Scorpion,

I do reccomend you take me up on my challenge before buying. Good luck.

Scorpiontico · #12 Post by **Scorpiontico** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 6:12 am

BranE wrote:Scorpion,

I do reccomend you take me up on my challenge before buying. Good luck.

you mean about finding the intel's drivers on the ibm website otherwise i dont get you (understand)... sorry.

but if it is about that whats wrong then? ibm doesnt have them or what?

regards buddy.

Leon · #13 Post by **Leon** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:54 am

he's saying they're not there.....

Scorpiontico · #14 Post by **Scorpiontico** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 3:54 pm

Leon wrote:he's saying they're not there.....

so basicly ibm' site offers better support for their own WIFI components than they do for intel's?, right.

interesting...

thanks.

Kenn · #15 Post by **Kenn** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 4:45 pm

I believe that Intel's A/B/G drivers being missing from the IBM site may be due to the fact that they were just released for the Sonoma Centrino platform recently. IBM generally is very good with testing and releasing drivers with little compatibility issues. From their support for the 2100/2200 series drivers, I would hesitate beform assuming that their support for intel is lacking simply because the drivers haven't been posted to the site yet.

#16 Post by **AlphaKilo470** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 5:22 pm

I'd go for the IBM part because it comes from the same company that made your ThinkPad, thus making it harder for support to pull the "your comp is incompatible" card whenever you may have any trouble.

kanate · #17 Post by **kanate** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 5:50 pm

I believe these 2 cards are about the same in performance. They are pretty new and hard to find a review.

For me, i'll go with Intel just because your notebook can be called "Centrino".

Yes, I know, "Centrino" is nothing but it's a good selling point when you want to sell it later on.

s0larian · #18 Post by **s0larian** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 5:59 pm

sorry Kanate, but if you think it is a selling point, just say it is a centrino anyway. If the potential buyer is so dumb he/she will never find out that in fact an IBM card does the wireless.

kanate · #19 Post by **kanate** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 6:05 pm

With intel wireless, you get "Centrino" sticker
With something else, you will get "Pentium M" sticker.

And why do i need to lie?

nikemen · #20 Post by **nikemen** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 3:53 pm

So, I did the new install of the 802.11 a/b/g card driver today, to 4.0.1 something. Anyway, it seems that the card has increased in ability, I am getting 83% signals, now where I WAS getting .45%

As well, when I use the netstumbler application, it doesn't automatically SEE the card, I have to switch from ATHEROS to NCIS or something like that for it to see.
anyone have any similar exps?

Scorpiontico · #21 Post by **Scorpiontico** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 10:50 pm

nikemen wrote:So, I did the new install of the 802.11 a/b/g card driver today, to 4.0.1 something. Anyway, it seems that the card has increased in ability, I am getting 83% signals, now where I WAS getting .45%

As well, when I use the netstumbler application, it doesn't automatically SEE the card, I have to switch from ATHEROS to NCIS or something like that for it to see.
anyone have any similar exps?

then the question is, which one would you prefer the intel or the ibm?

thanks.

Uncletoad · #22 Post by **Uncletoad** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 3:00 pm

i cannot speak for the Intel wireless part but I do have the Atheros IBM a/b/g Type II in both of my T42's and they perform reliably and consistently in several different environments under less than idea circumstances. I use the Dlink DI-624 router on two different systems in two different places. Transitions between the two are seamless. Dropouts are rare and usually from me being more that 100 feet away from the main box. WPA-PSK with no broadcasting.

I wouldn't use anything else myself.

baraider · #23 Post by **baraider** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 3:05 pm

is the ibm preinstalled ?

i'm thinking of buying the card from ibm and dl the driver from them...i don't know if the rumor about ibm type II card driver not found is true or not.

Uncletoad · #24 Post by **Uncletoad** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 4:12 pm

Both my T42's were made after last September. Both came with the Type II card. Once I overcame my operator error they worked great.

Don't know anything about putting stuff in after the fact. I ordered exactly what I wanted from Bill.

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