24" 1920x1200 pixel display

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awolfe63 · #1 Post by **awolfe63** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:20 pm

I just got the new Dell 2405FPW display.

Resolution is 1920x1200. The stock IBM drivers won't do that - but the modded Catalyst driver will (5.3) (I have a T42 - 9600/64MB).

I could not get the monitor to respond to VGA at 1920x1200 - but it works fine on DVI. VGA quality is not good enough anyway.

So FYI - it works!

dfumento · #2 Post by **dfumento** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:27 pm

Glad to hear it

Thanks.

badlydrawn · #3 Post by **badlydrawn** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 7:49 am

thanks for the heads up - am going to take the dive very soon - this helps!

How does the computer responde at that hi-res, websites, photoshop, 3d, etc (nongaming)?

awolfe63 · #4 Post by **awolfe63** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:46 am

Response time seems fine for normal work and 2d games - have not tried 3d yet.

dperron · #5 Post by **dperron** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 11:55 am

Doesn't 1920x1200 requires a Dual-link DVI connector?

http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphi ... on-06.html

CoolRunnings · #6 Post by **CoolRunnings** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 4:24 pm

When you get a sec, let us know how it does with 3d, would ya? I'm very interested to hear how that works...

dfumento · #7 Post by **dfumento** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 4:44 pm

dperron wrote:Doesn't 1920x1200 requires a Dual-link DVI connector?

http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphi ... on-06.html

From the article:
A graphics card with a good DVI signal using reduced blanking would still be sufficient to drive one of Apple's new 20" and 23" Cinema Displays at their native resolutions of either 1680x1050 or 1920x1200, respectively. However, to drive the 30" version at its native resolution of 2560x1600, there is no way around Dual-Link operation.

vincepoy · #8 Post by **vincepoy** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 9:03 am

23" LCD's are all made by LG-Philips while the 24" are made by Samsung so the requirements for DVI may differ.

bdoviack · #9 Post by **bdoviack** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 1:09 am

I was also thinking of the getting the Dell 2405FPW but I was unsure if my ThinkPad T40 could drive it. I have the ATI7500 with 32MB plus a mini-dock with the Port replicator that has the DVI port.

Does anyone know if I have enough juice to run this monitor at 1920x1200 at 32bit color?

Thanks,
Bryan

awolfe63 · #10 Post by **awolfe63** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 1:00 am

My AGP ATI7500 card can do it and as I said, my T42 can do it - so I would be very surprised if a T40 could not.

bdoviack · #11 Post by **bdoviack** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 2:22 am

Thanks for the reply awolfe63.

Now that you've had the 2405FPW for a little while, how do you like it? Would you recommend it or go for something else?

Also have thought about the 2005FPW which is the 20" Dell. Not sure which way to go.

Thanks again,
Bryan

awolfe63 · #12 Post by **awolfe63** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 10:44 am

I like the 2405FPW. Is is incredibly sharp using DVI and very bright. The only downside from the 2001FP is that I could use the 2001FP in portrait mode. The 2405FPW is so tall in portrait mode that it is hard to use.

I would get the 1600x1200 20" before I would get the 20" wide screen. Think of the 24" as a stretched 20" The 20" wide screen is a stretched 17". The "stretching" is nice - but unless DVD watching is your main app, the vertical pixel count determines how much of most real documents you can see.

CantabRich · #13 Post by **CantabRich** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:53 pm

Andrew, my 2405FPW arrives on Thursday. My question relates to drivers. You mention that you are using the modded Catalyst drivers for the screen. Have you had any difficulties when you disconnect your TPad from the dock and use the TPad's LCD again?

I ask because some have reported difficulties reverting back to a 1400x1078 resolution after using the Catalyst drivers.

awolfe63 · #14 Post by **awolfe63** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 5:04 pm

The opposite. I often get 1450x1050 when I redock and I need to reset the resolution. No problems undocking.

CantabRich · #15 Post by **CantabRich** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:44 pm

Thank you, Sir - much appreciated.

synapse · #16 Post by **synapse** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 7:47 pm

Hi-
I am looking into getting the 2405FPW with my T42p and Port Replicator II. First of all, will it work with the Port Replicator II?

Also, I was wondering if anyone has any experience with that monitor and the November video drivers from IBM (which are supposed to allow the high res. without the battery drain or other problems experienced by other members) which are at http://www.thinkpads.com/ftp_resource.htm? If so, can your ThinkPad drive it and does the rotation work properly?

Thanks for any input and help!
-Dan

awolfe63 · #17 Post by **awolfe63** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 10:40 pm

I am using it with the Minidock II and a T42 with the latest IBM drivers. Works fine. The Port Replicator II has identical video circuits so I'm 99.99% sure it will work.

synapse · #18 Post by **synapse** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 11:03 pm

Thanks for the reply Andrew. Does that mean that you get the 1920x1200 resolution as well as the rotation capabilities?
-Dan

#19 Post by **RonS** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 11:06 pm

I've got two 2405FPW's running on my T42p right now, both in digital mode.

#1 running off on stock IBM driver, 1920x1200 digital.
#1 running on ATI 9250 running in the docking station, 1920x1200 digital.

JHaislet · #20 Post by **JHaislet** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 12:42 am

RonS wrote:I've got two 2405FPW's running on my T42p right now, both in digital mode.

#1 running off on stock IBM driver, 1920x1200 digital.
#1 running on ATI 9250 running in the docking station, 1920x1200 digital.

Wow, so you put a half-height PCI video card in your docking station?
Way cool!

Speaking of "cool", how is the compartment which holds the PCI card ventilated? Is there enough airflow or openness to use a fanless PCI card?

synapse · #21 Post by **synapse** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 10:59 am

I just got a 2405fpw but I cannot seem to figure out how to rotate the screen. I have a 2379-DYU and ATI FireGL T2 driver version: 8.102.1-050224M-021425C-IBM, which seems to be the latest IBM provides. The resolution is fine and the display works great! I only wish I could figure out how to rotate the screen. There does not appear to be a tab or anything in the ATI control panel. Am I missing something? Thanks,
-Dan

awolfe63 · #22 Post by **awolfe63** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 1:48 pm

I have driver version 6.14.10.6476. This is what SW Installer gives me (for my T42 w/9600). SW Installer calls it version 8.102.1-050224m-021425C-IBM - so it seems to be the one you are using. The display panel under advanced has a rotation tab.

synapse · #23 Post by **synapse** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 8:52 pm

That is really strange. I have a feeling I am just not looking in the right place or it is something really simple. I can't imagine ATI leaving that out. If you can I uploaded 3 images of what I thought was the control panel and some various tabs and details. If you can point out where to look I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks-
-Dan

http://www.danielorth.com/ebay/ati.jpg
http://www.danielorth.com/ebay/ati2.jpg
http://www.danielorth.com/ebay/ati3.jpg

awolfe63 · #24 Post by **awolfe63** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 12:28 am

Strange - I have 1 more tab.

Do you have Hydravision installed? Maybe that's where it comes from.

synapse · #25 Post by **synapse** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 1:48 am

I do have Hydravision installed though I have never really used it. Are your drivers just the ones that IBM gave you or did you install a mod or addition? Also, what video card do you have? A 128MB FireGL T2? This is really annoying not being able to figure this out. Thanks for your help and taking a look at those images,
-Dan

awolfe63 · #26 Post by **awolfe63** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 1:34 pm

I never use Hydravision either.

I have a 9600 - 64MB. It really is the same chip as a T2 - but probably reports a different ID code. I don't think that is the issue.

I am on my 5th or 6th driver. The current one is the stock IBM driver installed by Software Installer. The version number matches yours.

I did at one time use a modded ATI driver back when the IBM driver had DVI limitations. This could be a remnant.

You could try installing the Catalyst drivers from ATI. They may still require the mobility mod. (search here or look in the FAQ for info). Then reinstall the IBM drivers and see if you get what I do.

synapse · #27 Post by **synapse** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 10:50 pm

I was finally able to do it through using the latest ATI Catalyst drivers and the mobility mod. It still doesn't show up in the control panel as a tab but at least now iRotate will work while before it told me my card didn't support it. Not perfect but at least it'll get me by. Thanks for all your help!

awolfe63 · #28 Post by **awolfe63** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 12:02 pm

Of course, I can't use the 2405W in portrait mode - I'm too short to see the top!

llama_thumper · #29 Post by **llama_thumper** » Wed Aug 03, 2005 5:31 pm

slightly (on 2405fpw) topic here - just wanted to ask if any of you had this problem or knows a solution to it. i have a t40p and just got my 2405fpw dell monitor. i've followed all the instructions (ie connect vga cable, connect usb cable, then put on power and voila, things should be there...) but can't get any display. what i do get is the LEDs green and the USB hub working, but not the display. only thing that happens is that the display lights up for a second, showing me what is on my laptop screen, then goes blank again. this happens when i disconnect and reconnect the VGA cable, whether at startup (shows me the windows xp bar loading) or on the desktop.
does this sound like a hardware problem? unfortunately i have nothing else to test with (ie no DVI input or s-video or anything...)

awolfe63 · #30 Post by **awolfe63** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 10:58 am

First guess would be a refresh rate problem.

1) Try booting in safe mode (VGA)

2) Try installing the driver for the monitor

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