Help pl. -ethernet crossover between 2 laptops

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Rahula · #1 Post by **Rahula** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 2:23 am

Hello:

Can you please direct me to some step-by-step instruction on how to transfer data between 2 lappies with ethernet crossover cable? One is a T23 with W2k Pro, the other has Windows XP Home.

After many hours of fiddling, the icon blinks at the bottom right task bar of both screens; the icon is similar to that which shows the dial modem is activated. Other than this blinking icon, there no sign on My Computer or My Network Places to show that the two lappies are connected and talking. When clicking on the Computers Near Me icon, each lappy only shows itself as the sole computer in the network. I have given each lappy a name, and the workgroup as HOME. Inspite of this blinking icon, I don't even know whether I'm on the right track.

When the two lappies are correctly connected and "talking" to each other, would there be some kind of message on the screen, as in Infrared link, to prompt us to send or receive data from the other computer. What do I have to do to send a file from one lappy to the other?

I noticed there are some postings on ethernet networking previously on this forum but they are many chapters ahead of me. I will be most grateful if some of you would give me some guidance.

Many thanks.

Rahula.

s0larian · #2 Post by **s0larian** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 4:15 am

connect the two laptops with the crossover cable, make sure that they have static IP's in the network settings within the same range (i.e. 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2). If this is done, open a cmd shell and do a ping to see if they see each other. Then it should be possible to transfer files between them if you have enabled file sharing on some folders. Turn firewalls off to avoid problems.

MadeInJapan · #3 Post by **MadeInJapan** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 8:48 am

Whenever I've used a crossover cable between 2 computers, I've found that:
1. The WORKGROUP name should be the same. Individual computer ID's can differ.
2. Permissions are set in "Users and Passwords" (Control Panel) for each computer's log-in name.
Then it works...haven't ever dealt with static IP addresses, but that may be something too.

Good luck.

#4 Post by **RonS** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 12:09 pm

You don't need to have the same workgroup name.

All you need is...

1. Connect the cable.
2. Set IP addresse as s0larian said
3. Go to Start->Run and type in
\\192.168.0.1
(or 0.2 to access the other machine).

This will open a login screen if needed, and you're in.

Kenn · #5 Post by **Kenn** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 2:43 pm

For the sake of future searches, I just wanted to point out that gigabit ethernet (included on newer T-series laptops) is auto-sensing, so you should no longer need a crossover cable.

ehsu · #6 Post by **ehsu** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:18 pm

??

Rahula is trying to do direct cable connection via ethernet ports. You are saying any regular ethernet cables will do?! I thought a crossover cable is needed in this situation without using a hub/switch/router.

I got a crossover cable to do direct cable connection, left both TCP/IP settings and everything else Windows default. I have both in the same workgroup, but it is not necessary like someone said earlier. Just plug it in, bang, there is my Gigabit connection bewteen my desktop and T42. Uberfast.

Kenn · #7 Post by **Kenn** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:32 pm

ehsu wrote:??

Rahula is trying to do direct cable connection via ethernet ports. You are saying any regular ethernet cables will do?! I thought a crossover cable is needed in this situation without using a hub/switch/router.

I guess this didn't really clarify it as I had intended. For newer laptops, the GIGABIT ETHERNET standard requires all NICs to be auto-sensing and switching, so you should be able to use regular instead of crossover cables and vice versa.

PetraM · #8 Post by **PetraM** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 4:21 pm

Sorry to drop in like that but since you're discussing same things...
My friends and me wanted to connect 3 laptops using a router (laptops running xp sp1 and sp2). They all get connected but all but my computer require a username/password to get in although they are not set at all. This happens only when connecting with a router. When using a crossover cable or a switch it's working normally.

You guys maybe know what's wrong?

Thank you,
Petra

MadeInJapan · #9 Post by **MadeInJapan** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 9:11 pm

Obviously things have progressed since the Win98 days (the NICs too). I was just giving you what I had learned back then and continue to do. Autosensing is nice...but I'm still making crossover cables for some applications.

Kenn · #10 Post by **Kenn** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 9:29 pm

PetraM wrote:Sorry to drop in like that but since you're discussing same things...
My friends and me wanted to connect 3 laptops using a router (laptops running xp sp1 and sp2). They all get connected but all but my computer require a username/password to get in although they are not set at all. This happens only when connecting with a router. When using a crossover cable or a switch it's working normally.

You guys maybe know what's wrong?

Thank you,
Petra

It's really hard to tell what is going on with Windows networking without actually being there, but it depends on what you're trying to do. If you are just using Internet connection sharing, you should be fine as long as you're on the same physical network and all three computers are on workgroups and not domains.

I always turn off simple file sharing and disable the guest account, so anyone trying to connect to my computer needs to have a user account on my local machine. For your setup, it means that everyone needs to have a user/password on each machine. If they use the same uesr/login as the user currently connected to the remote machine, Windows won't ask themfor u/p verification when they connect to the local box.

Rahula · #11 Post by **Rahula** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 11:22 am

Thanks for your replies. I did as suggested, such as:
1. set up IP range
2. separate name for each pc
3. a common workgroup name: HOME
4. even did the Start/Run: and type 192.168.0.1 of the other pc

After many hours of fiddling around, what I got is just the blinking icon at the bottom right task bar of each pc, and the properties even provided the number, e.g. 985 packets sent. It seems like the ethernet got the two pcs connected, but in both pcs, in My Network Places, the other pc did not show up.

I only want transfer data between 2 pc, and not use the ethernet crossover for internet purpose. Can someone please describe to me how the data is transferred. For example, in Infrared, I just right click on the file, and the menu includes this choice: "Send to computer nearby" So, for ethernet, what do you have to do to send the data to the other pc.

Thanks.

MadeInJapan · #12 Post by **MadeInJapan** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 8:38 pm

Did you have Windows log-on enabled on both and within each of the 2 computers' password sections, did you enable the user ID and passwords? Try this and see if they connect if you haven't already done this.

....OH, and make sure that TCP/IP is installed in both...sometime they don't install just by adding a NIC.

syhead · #13 Post by **syhead** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 9:54 pm

Rahula wrote: 4. even did the Start/Run: and type 192.168.0.1 of the other pc

did you put the two ""??

like this:

\\192.168.0.1

Rahula · #14 Post by **Rahula** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 12:32 am

Thanks for your replies. After some hours trying the suggestions from you folks, I managed to get the 2 lappies see each other's shared folders, but the data transfer is only a one-way street. From the XP I can open and copy files from the W2K lappy, but not the other way around. From the W2K, when I tried to open the files from XP, I get this message: " Not Accessible. Not Enough server storage is available to process this command." But the test folder contains only a file from the Notepad written with only 2 words: "Test One" and the size is not even 2.0 KB.

I tried turning on and off the firewall of each lappy, and was still unable to open the w2k folders from the XP lappy..

Any suggestions?
Thanks.

MadeInJapan · #15 Post by **MadeInJapan** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 12:38 am

Networking is a strange thing...especially with XP I have had numerous issues that when solved, I still don't know exactly what I've done. One thing that has worked in the past is to click on "setting up home network" on the XP computer sometimes. It might be worth a try.

whatsinthename · #16 Post by **whatsinthename** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 4:40 am

Check if you are manually setting ip.

1. if ip on one pc is 192.168.2.x the other should be in the same format, ie only x should change.
2. same workgroup
3. on some computers, firewalls may complicate things. I have seen it happen.

puco · #17 Post by **puco** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 5:28 am

Rahula wrote:From the W2K, when I tried to open the files from XP, I get this message: " Not Accessible. Not Enough server storage is available to process this command."

http://www.chicagotech.net/notenough.htm

And also you can't connect to a WinXP box with an account that has a blank password.

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