Is WIN98SE slightly unhappy with > 512 MB of RAM??

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Is WIN98SE slightly unhappy with > 512 MB of RAM??

#1 Post by leoblob » Sun Mar 27, 2005 10:21 pm

I think I read somewhere that WIN98SE has a subtle problem if you have more than 512 MB of RAM. I can't remember the specifics, but one of my desktop computers has WIN98SE and 1GB (1,024MB) of RAM, and it is a bit unstable. It will crash a few times per day (on a bad day) with no rhyme or reason. I am running genuine Micron PC-133 ECC SDRAM and nothing is overclocked. Any ideas if less RAM would help? I know this is pretty vague, but I hope someone has an idea or opinion.

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#2 Post by d lehmann » Sun Mar 27, 2005 11:12 pm

win98se will do fine with more than 512. I used it in video editing machines way back when with 1 gig. There is a setting that has to be changed, so it will use it. I will try to remember and post back. I also used to run a memory manager before encoding video, only because because of sloppy programming, some progs don't release memory when closing.

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#3 Post by jdhurst » Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:14 am

Windows 98 is a DOS system and has backward, obsolete and pretty much useless memory management, so don't expect too much. You need Windows 2000 or better to have decent memory management.
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#4 Post by Admiral » Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:41 am

The problem lies with VCACHE. It can consume to much of a specific area utilised by various processes and thus the system hangs etc. The solution is to restrict VCACHE in the SYSTEM.INI file. Under the [vcache] section you need the line:
MaxFileCache=512000

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#5 Post by leoblob » Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:54 pm

Admiral wrote:The problem lies with VCACHE. It can consume to much of a specific area utilised by various processes and thus the system hangs etc. The solution is to restrict VCACHE in the SYSTEM.INI file. Under the [vcache] section you need the line:
MaxFileCache=512000
If I put in this line, will this make the O/S good for 512MB, or will it make it good for > 512MB?

And yes, I know that WIN98SE is a bit long in the tooth. I think the fact that it's DOS-based is why I'm comfortable with it! :lol:
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#6 Post by d lehmann » Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:17 pm

leoblob

Win98se can use up to 2 gig of ram if the mb and bios support it.
Admiral is correct in changing the vcache size. The line I use is:
MaxFileCache=524288
In addition do this:
run Sysedit.
open the System.ini tab.
scroll down to the [386 Enh] group
on the first open line at the botton of the group, type in this command exactly as I have typed it here:

ConservativeSwapfileUsage=1

Save the file and reboot.

Win98se has several other problems including the use of acpi if your bios supports it.
Here is a site that has an undocumented service pack for 98 and a lot of useful links. They all work well.

Image your drive beforehand just in case.


http://exuberant.ms11.net/98sesp.html

BTW, if you like win98se and it supports all the hardware you use, there is nothing wrong with using it forever. It can be a reliable os with the correct setup. I know lots of people that still use dos 6.3 and it suits their needs adequately. The latest and greatest os isn't a must.

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#7 Post by leoblob » Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:39 pm

Thanks for all the great info. I understand how to make the changes suggested. The particular computer I'm having problems with has had so many changes to it during the past 12 months, that I am going to re-install WIN98SE onto a blank formatted hard drive. I am considering simply using 512MB of RAM, as I suspect that would meet my needs.

And I agree about continuing to use an older O/S if it still does the job for you. The problem is, newer devices or software that don't work with an older O/S. WIN98SE is still "supported" in this sense, but at some point, it won't be.

Ironically, my wife uses PC-DOS 6.3 on her Thinkpad (360). She is a court reporter and her specialized software is written in DOS. But she uses another machine with WIN98SE to go on the Internet (try and find a browser and/or e-mail program that runs in DOS :lol: )

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