Looking to buy a IBM ThinkPad 700T

[ThinkPad560X]

Looking to buy a IBM ThinkPad 700T, I guess this would complete my IBM ThinkPad Collection and this is the best place to find one.

[ThinkPad560X]

Heres a 700T for bids I found on ebay.. http://www.ebay.com/itm/120793761805?ss ... 1426.l2649

[rossmosis]

That's an amazing piece of history, I've always kept an eye out for one but never thought I'd actually see one for sale! Obviously you won't be able to get one for cheap unless you buy it from an uninformed seller. Does anyone here even have one? I'd love to see some more pictures of it

[ThinkPad560X]

Yes im looking for one to buy to complete my IBM ThinkPad Collection, I have a 700C but wanted to get the tablet too "700T" But i don't have enough to bid right now. If it was a buy it now I would buy it. Anyone have one for sale? I just gave the link to any ThinkPad lover that wants to bid on one to keep it between the ThinkPad comuity. Thats where I found most of my rare ones and all can pass them around.

[ThinkPad560X]

PM me if anyone has a 700T for sale "Name Your Price" , Thanks...

[ThinkPad560X]

Can be a 710T or a 730T, 730TE Aswell.

[ThinkPad560X]

Got a IBM ThinkPad 700T for $75.00 off ebay.

[majk3l]

Same from me. Is anyone selling 700T wright now?

I am also interested in 300, 700, 700C.
If you do have one for sale - majkel (at) onet.eu
If you are from EU and want to lent one for a good money - just contact me as well.

[hwattys]

Got a 730T. It has no accessories but does run. I bought 5 of them a couple years ago and have gradually sold them off and built up one fully working unit with all accessories but I have one additional bare unit left. For the hard drive you can use a pcmcia CF adapter since the pcmcia mechanical hard drives are very hard to find. The docking stations are also nearly impossible to find, but it uses the same AC adapter as a Thinkpad 350. I do believe I might have a spare pen, however, now that I think about it.

[jeepjunkie23]

Hi I recently got a 700t from my uncle and I was looking for a bit of information on it. Sorry I probably should have started a new thread but you guys seem fairly knowledgeable about it. (and I'm NOT interested in selling it) The machine does power up but it's missing both the RAM and flash card (I heard they used them instead of HDs) so all it does is beep a steady rate. (no RAM beep code I'm assuming) I was wondering if anyone could tell me a little bit about it, such as what kind of RAM the 700t uses. I think it's IC DRAM since the slot looks similar to PCMCIA. I'm sure I could find some on Ebay but it would be nice to be certain what kind and the recommended amount. Also I was wondering about the flash card it used. All that remains is the IDE connector, and I'm assuming it had some easy ejection method. There are mounting holes for it, but the cavity is too small for a laptop hard drive. And since that's missing I'll have to see what the OS was. This unit must be fairly hard to find because I have had trouble finding even the slightest bit of information on it. The best I could find is a general guess on the CPU- either i386SX or i386SL. I think it runs around 25 to 33 MHz. Then again that was just because I happened to see a picture of it somewhere. Basically I'm trying to bring this machine back to life and any help here would be much appreciated. I can post pictures if anyone is interested in seeing it, but I can tell you it looks exactly like the unit in this video; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99l1YR3DhCo
Thanks to anyone that can help!

[hwattys]

Can you post some pictures of the unit? I have never seen a 700t but have had lots of 730ts. Assuming they are the same, yes it uses IC DRAM like the Thinkpad 750/360 series and then uses pcmcia hard drives, which are almost impossible to find at this point. You can use a pcmcia compact flash adapter as a hard drive.

[jeepjunkie23]

Here is a link to a few pics I took, including the inside, in a zip file; https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3m_iIP ... JXMGc/edit As for the RAM, what would you recommend for the size? The hard drive/flash card would definitely have to be something smaller (physical size) than a standard laptop hard drive- the cavity is too small and I heard magnesium is very inflammable, so I can't grind a space out (nor do I want to). What would be ideal is if I can find something to convert the IDE connector to PCMCIA, like it had originally (I think). You might see the same thing in later models. It looks like there is an opening so the PCMCIA memory card could easily be pulled out. I have an old laptop that I could use to read the card. The closest I could get to this was for full size IDE, not for the smaller laptop. If you look at the pics, all that remains here is the bare IDE cable. And while you're here, do you know what OS this would have run?

Thanks for your help!

[hwattys]

That looks nothing like a 730T inside. I think the hard drive slot does look like a standard 2.5 inch laptop IDE drive slot....is it less than 2.5 inches across? I think the other slot might be either a slot to add DRAM or a PCMCIA slot; not sure. They look very similar but the pins are not the same so be careful. Memory is keyed so it will not fit in a pcmcia slot, but it can be forced. The OS on these was likely Pen DOS or Windows for Pen Computing (Windows 3.11) and both of those are now impossible to find. I have the Pen Services files for Windows 95 which runs well on the 730T (a 486/33) and could send you a copy.

[jeepjunkie23]

Well the internal slot has to be RAM, because it seems likely that is the cause of the beep. That, and I tried to gently insert a PCMCIA modem and it wouldn't go in all the way because of an extra notch. I had to completely remove the system board to access it, and putting a PCMCIA card slot so far in makes no sense. I haven't measured the cavity for the hard drive area, but I tried to set a laptop drive in place and it wouldn't fit- the posts for whatever used to be there are in the way. I also tried to power it up with the hd connected, but it didn't spin up, probably because it was failing POST. As for the OS, I do have a copy of Windows 98, but that might be overkill on the CPU, unless it can be stripped down. I suppose I could find a Windows 95 ISO on the net fairly easily. Or even Ebay. Getting it on the machine might be a little tricky, since the only I/O ports are serial and a what looks like an external floppy, which I don't have anyway. Another thing too, how does the touch work on these machines? The only reason I ask is because I don't have the pen it would have come with and I know some touch screens won't recognize a finger touch. I would think just the touch screen emulating a mouse would be decent enough. I doubt it supports multitouch. If you could provide a download link for the Pen Services I would appreciate it, for future use. I'm assuming 486/33 means a 486 CPU running at 33 MHz.

[jeepjunkie23]

I did a little research on the Windows for Pen Computing. I found someone on this forum site that claims to have a link to download it, but they're worried it's still copyrighted...or something to that effect. Here's the link;http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=96469
I also found an archived web page on what the 730T is capable of running, including what it most likely ran stock; http://ps-2.kev009.com/ohlandl/2524/730Tos.html This page was dug up from an archive and the original no longer exists. The best I could find on Youtube was someone who got it to run on an iPad, probably a virtual machine of some kind. I couldn't watch the video because the computer I'm on is very old. I think Windows 95 would work decent on the 700t, but for now I'll see about tracking down the missing parts on Ebay. I found an 8MB IC DRAM card for a reasonable price that I might bid on. The only thing that is stumping me is the IDE to PCMCIA adapter that is now missing on my machine. Would you mind posting a pic of where the flash card plugs into your 730t system (if it is remotely similar to mine) so I know what to look for? I would rather use a flash card that can be easily removed so I can add files and programs to the system easily. Then again I could also get a floppy drive to plug into it...

[hwattys]

Yes I also tried to find Windows for Pen Computing through this Forum and came up with a couple links and the files it led me to were specific to another brand of computer GRID and do not work on a Thinkpad. Here is an online picture of a 730T:

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/263/1004183c.jpg/

On the right is a 4-bay slot. The top on the left holds the DRAM and the one next to it is a Type I pcmcia and then on the right is where the hard drive goes. The hard drive is a Type III (double thick) pcmcia card.

Yes the 730T is a DX2 486 chip running at 33 mhz. You can install a max of 24 megs RAM....8 onboard and then up to a 16 meg DRAM card. It uses the same ones as a Thinkpad 750, but you can also use the ones from the 360 series. Some are parity and some are not but you can turn off the parity check in the BIOS. You need a pen to enter the BIOS. So you are sure the IDE cable hooks to a pcmcia sled of some sort and does not directly attach to a hard drive?

The Pen Services for Windows 95 files actually fit on a floppy and can be used with any version of Windows 95. You add the Pen Services through the Windows Add/Remove programs in the Control Panel as a Windows service. I can make you a floppy and mail it or I can post the files on the 'net and give you a download link. I believe I have the GRID Windows 3.1 files around here somewhere, too if you want to play with those. They also just add into Windows 3.1 or 3.11 to turn it into Windows for Pen Computing.

You need the pen. It is not a finger multi-touch. I think the first one of those is a Thinkpad Transnote about 7 years later.

[jeepjunkie23]

Yes I am fairly certain of the PCMCIA sled, mostly because of that link I posted a while back. If you watch the video there, the guy in it is holding a tablet just like mine, and even refers to it as the 700t. At one point he pops out the card through the opening. Unfortunately this is literally all I could find. I set a PCMCIA modem in the cavity and if there was a track there it would fit perfectly. Now that i think about it I could use an IDE to CF card adapter which should be much easier to find. I could then use another adapter to convert CF to SD so I could have at least a few gigs of storage that can easily be removed. You said that these units have 8MB of onboard RAM, which is confusing me. When I try to power the unit up, it beeps at me in a sort of 3 ring pulse, about 5 seconds apart. It almost sounds like a smoke alarm. Usually this means bad or missing RAM, but I heard most early laptops had some onboard. I would think that if it did have RAM it would at least show a BIOS screen but nothing comes up. I have no idea what this machine is been through, so it could be anything. When I first found it, the internal ribbon cables were disconnected and 3 screws were missing, so someone was definitely messing with this. Maybe it's complaining it can't find the flash card, but on most PCs I've seen this usually isn't a problem for at least seeing and accessing the BIOS. Then again most of my experience is with early ATX systems. Nothing on the main board looks corroded, except for the battery terminals, which I won't ever need anyway. When I can get it running, how exactly does the touch screen work? If it needs a pen I am guessing there's a small magnet in the tip that it detects. Hopefully the pens from the modern (now Lenovo) ThinkPads use will work just as good. I was thinking I could fool it with a small magnet for now.

[derick]

Now on ebay THINKPAD 710T in Europe.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/221182611057?ru ... 26_rdc%3D1

[mnowell69]

what a strange device. Obviously ahead of it's time

[jeepjunkie23]

Well thanks for the links derick. Although I'm not interested in buying, I at least know what the screen display looks like. I found some RAM for my 700t, a 16mb ICDRAM for about $13. I think that's enough for Windows 95 but I might just stick with Windows 3.1. The one thing I'm missing is the pen. Does anyone know if a pen from the modern Lenovo ThinkPads would work?

[derick]

I test it and my pen from x41t working OK,but dont fit to pen slot in 710t.Also pen from 710t works on my X41.

[jeepjunkie23]

Do you know what ThinkPad pens will fit in the slot? This isn't a bid deal if it won't fit but it would be easier to keep track of the pen if it did.

[derick]

The original pen is 122mm long(without tip) and around 9mm thick.I think,that any pen with this dimensions must fit to slot.

[jeepjunkie23]

Thanks but do you know what models would have a pen about that size? (like 710T and 730T) The X series pens must be very close because from a picture it looks to be the correct size but maybe not. That's all I really see on Ebay, nothing from the T series, so maybe I can modify the holder so the X series pen could fit. Then again its really not that big of a deal, it would be just easier to keep track of it.

[ThinkPad560X]

I need the stylus Pen, Battery and AC Adapter for my 700T, would like OEM.

[derick]

Thanks but do you know what models would have a pen about that size? (like 710T and 730T) The X series pens must be very close because from a picture it looks to be the correct size but maybe not. That's all I really see on Ebay, nothing from the T series, so maybe I can modify the holder so the X series pen could fit. Then again its really not that big of a deal, it would be just easier to keep track of it.

I have two pens only.X41t and 710t.So I dont know which model will be fitted.Maybe ask any ebay seller for dimensions of some models.

[jeepjunkie23]

Okay, I might just try to mod the opening so an X series pen would work. It appears trying to track down a pen of the correct size might be more trouble than its worth. In my last message when I said T series I meant like the 700T, not the T430 for example. Sorry for any confusion. I might try to contact someone at Lenovo to get the details on it. Having it fit in the slot would make it much easier to keep track of.

[ThinkPad560X]

Yes they will fit, My X41T's stylus pen fits into my 700T, but theres no spring or something to push it back. Need something small to push it out. I may have found the spring witch the hole is located where the IBM ThinkPad logo is, not sure why there are two holes, but glad there is since I can use a screw driver to push out the pen from the other side, So from what I found out, the pen will fit but will get stuck and have to push it out with something.

[ThinkPad560X]

Who has the 710T will the ThinkPad T20, R50 any of that ThinkPad models that use that kind of AC Adapter, does it fit on your 710T? My AC plug in pin on my 700T is alittle bigger then my other ThinkPads. Never even powered my 700T up before. And if it is the same style plug in AC Adapter as my 700T, what is the FRU number on your AC Adapter? Or does it even use the 4 prong like the 755 models use?

[jeepjunkie23]

Well I'm glad to see it will at least fit. The double hole is probably so you can put the pen in the base no matter how you hold it. I'll try to answer your last post. I don't know exactly what the power connector looks like on a 710T (nor do I own a T20 or R50), but the ac adapter I use on my 700T also fits an old Toshiba Satellite 4010CDT and an IBM ThinkPad 560. The adapter puts out 15 volts and 4 amps. One of those systems actually runs on 16 volts but it still works fine. The adapter is rounded, I can measure it if needed. If you happen to have an old Toshiba laptop chances are that ac adapter will work. I hope your 700T is a little more complete than mine is now. My system was missing both the ICDRAM card and the flash memory (both of which I found replacements for). Hope that helps.