Found a Cause of "Worn Out" Hinges

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Found a Cause of "Worn Out" Hinges

#1 Post by wswartzendruber » Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:01 pm

The lid on my launch-day T400 had gotten progressively looser until one day it was like it had suddenly lost half of its strength. I thought that the hinges had just completely worn out. So I decided to order new ones. The T400/R400 Hardware Maintenance Manual gives two possible replacements for my configuration:

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I ordered the cheaper Kato ones for $26.00 US. When they arrived two days later via UPS, I swapped the old ones out and put the new ones in. Upon closer inspection of the old hinges, I found that one was still in perfectly good, working order. The other looked like this:

Broken T400 Hinge

So it seems that neither hinge really wore out. One remained in perfect condition while the other slowly wedged apart, gradually allowing for extra play. Also, the part number on the old hinge is not listed as a suitable replacement, if at all.
Model: Lenovo ThinkPad T400
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo P8400 (2.26 GHz, 1067 MHz FSB, 3 MB L2 Cache)
RAM: 4 GB PC-8500 (1067 MHz, Dual-channel)
HDD: 500 GB, 54000 RPM
Audio: Conexant CX20561 (192 kHz, 24-bit)
Video: Intel GMA 4500MHD
Wireless: Intel 5300

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Re: Found a Cause of "Worn Out" Hinges

#2 Post by Harryc » Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:09 pm

That looks like metal fatigue. Not an encouraging sight on a newer Lenovo product.

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Re: Found a Cause of "Worn Out" Hinges

#3 Post by wswartzendruber » Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:08 pm

I remember something about certain ThinkPads having titanium hinges. Any clarification? My old man's T60 is still working like a champ after taking thirteen months in Iraq.
Model: Lenovo ThinkPad T400
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo P8400 (2.26 GHz, 1067 MHz FSB, 3 MB L2 Cache)
RAM: 4 GB PC-8500 (1067 MHz, Dual-channel)
HDD: 500 GB, 54000 RPM
Audio: Conexant CX20561 (192 kHz, 24-bit)
Video: Intel GMA 4500MHD
Wireless: Intel 5300

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Re: Found a Cause of "Worn Out" Hinges

#4 Post by rkawakami » Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:05 pm

That T400 hinge certainly looks like the X22 hinges I posted about a couple of years ago: http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.ph ... 48#p542148

By any chance is "Reell" stamped on the hinge or perhaps a Patent #?
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X22 X24 X31 X41 X41T X60 X60s X61 X61s X200 X200s X300 X301 Z60m Z61t Z61p 560 560Z 600 600E 600X T21 T22 T23 T41 T60p T410 T420 T520 W500 W520 R50 A21p A22p A31 A31p
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Re: Found a Cause of "Worn Out" Hinges

#5 Post by wswartzendruber » Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:03 pm

The only identifier I found on the hinge is the one in the picture. It's definitely an IBM part number, but I can't find the manufacturer.
Model: Lenovo ThinkPad T400
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo P8400 (2.26 GHz, 1067 MHz FSB, 3 MB L2 Cache)
RAM: 4 GB PC-8500 (1067 MHz, Dual-channel)
HDD: 500 GB, 54000 RPM
Audio: Conexant CX20561 (192 kHz, 24-bit)
Video: Intel GMA 4500MHD
Wireless: Intel 5300

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Re: Found a Cause of "Worn Out" Hinges

#6 Post by Brian10161 » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:10 am

An old Toshiba I had for work did that after it was about 7 years old. I ended up having to use string to hold the lid open because both hinges did the same thing (my boss didn't want to spend 30 bucks to order new parts O_o).

The one I had completely came apart though, it wouldn't hold the display up at all, almost felt like it would just come off with enough force.

Cheap metal I say, or poor design. Weird on a TP though.
Thinkpad T410

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