X61 Tablet Express Card ??

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RRHODY · #1 Post by **RRHODY** » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:31 pm

The description for my X61 Tablet [7762-b6u] says this:

"Slots
1 Type I / II PC Card slot with 34mm
ExpressCard via adapter, 1 secure digital card slot."

What does "via adapter" mean?

I know and use the SD slot, but have not put anything into the slot above that one; it looks like the usual PCMCIA card slot.

dmdsoftware · #2 Post by **dmdsoftware** » Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:34 pm

RRHODY wrote:The description for my X61 Tablet [7762-b6u] says this:

"Slots
1 Type I / II PC Card slot with 34mm
ExpressCard via adapter, 1 secure digital card slot."

What does "via adapter" mean?

I know and use the SD slot, but have not put anything into the slot above that one; it looks like the usual PCMCIA card slot.

There is a PCMCIA cardbus+ adapter card that lets you run certain USB-based express cards.

Not worth it in my opinion as most express cards you would ever want to use (such as for eSATA) won't work.

RRHODY · #3 Post by **RRHODY** » Wed Aug 31, 2011 5:51 pm

So the Express Card will connect if you have the proper adapter - BUT - you say those cards connected via the adapter do not work. Is that the card's fault or the adapter's?

dmdsoftware · #4 Post by **dmdsoftware** » Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:16 pm

RRHODY wrote:So the Express Card will connect if you have the proper adapter - BUT - you say those cards connected via the adapter do not work. Is that the card's fault or the adapter's?

There are two general types of Express Cards -- USB based and PCI Express based. The cardbus+ in the Thinkpads allow you to use a Express Card adapter but the adapter only supports USB based Express Cards. Most Express Cards are PCI Express based. Some example Express Cards I think of are eSATA cards. These would be PCI Express based. These won't work on the adapter.

The only USB based Express Card I've seen is a card reader, but there are plenty of card readers available in cardbus form.

Conclusion is that Express Card via the cardbus+ adapter are useless.

I wish they had a real Express Card slot. My 4 year old HP has one :s

Happy_hippo · #5 Post by **Happy_hippo** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:45 am

Hello, I just bought a 34/54 USB 3.0 Express Card, but unfortunately it doesn't seem to fit in my Thinkpad X61 tablet (7767-5AU) card slot.

Is it worth getting an adaptor? As this expansion card is USB based, but maybe the adaptor won't give me full USB 3 speeds? or will it?

Thanks

dr_st · #6 Post by **dr_st** » Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:09 am

The expansion card cannot possibly be USB based, because what's the point of making a USB3 adapter which runs over USB2?

It won't work.

loyukfai · #7 Post by **loyukfai** » Thu Sep 15, 2011 3:51 am

Think Lenovo was disingenuous in advertising the X61-series as ExpressCard-compliant.

Cheers.

dmdsoftware · #8 Post by **dmdsoftware** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 11:03 pm

ya, I'm not happy about lenovo falsely advertising express card support. It's useless in the form implemented. And my HP that is older sports a real Express Card slot -- I don't know what took Lenovo so long.

I really would love esata on the X6*. None of the cardbus esata card chipsets support AFT 4k sector drives, and almost all 2TB+ drives now use it, so I find my cardbus esata cards useless other than for connecting a bluray burner, which I rarely have purpose for on a X60. I would rather hook up a 2TB+ drive.

dr_st · #9 Post by **dr_st** » Sun Sep 18, 2011 2:20 am

dmdsoftware wrote:ya, I'm not happy about lenovo falsely advertising express card support. It's useless in the form implemented. And my HP that is older sports a real Express Card slot -- I don't know what took Lenovo so long.

It's not about "too long". Proper native ExpressCard 34/54 support has been around since the T43. It's just with the X6x series, due to space considerations, they had to choose between CardBus and ExpressCard. And I guess they believed that at that time CardBus devices were still more popular.

crashnburn · #10 Post by **crashnburn** » Sat Sep 24, 2011 3:20 pm

dmdsoftware wrote:ya, I'm not happy about lenovo falsely advertising express card support. It's useless in the form implemented. And my HP that is older sports a real Express Card slot -- I don't know what took Lenovo so long.

dr_st wrote:It's not about "too long". Proper native ExpressCard 34/54 support has been around since the T43. It's just with the X6x series, due to space considerations, they had to choose between CardBus and ExpressCard. And I guess they believed that at that time CardBus devices were still more popular.

Wish there was a HACK/ way around to replace them

... Just like Middleton's BIOS change

loyukfai · #11 Post by **loyukfai** » Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:24 am

You're aware that this issue actually involves the hardware instead of software...?

Just want to make sure so that you won't hope in vain... : )

Cheers.

crashnburn · #12 Post by **crashnburn** » Sun Sep 25, 2011 5:33 am

loyukfai wrote:You're aware that this issue actually involves the hardware instead of software...?

Just want to make sure so that you won't hope in vain... : )

Cheers.

I know. Maybe some ingenous mind can find a hardware mod/ hack

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