USB 3.0 port speeds not much faster?
USB 3.0 port speeds not much faster?
Is it just me or is the USB 3.0 speeds really not that much faster than the regular USB 2.0? I tried transferring about 9 gigs of music using a USB 3.0 flash drive via my USB 3.0 port on my ThinkPad vs the 2.0 USB port and I didn't notice that much of a difference in download/upload speeds. I thought USB 3.0 was supposed to be soOo much faster?? What gives?
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Re: USB 3.0 port speeds not much faster?
Well- is that USB 3.0 flash drive you're using a cheaper one? Some flash drives may advertise 3.0, but only barely tap the potential speed in the new USB 3.0 interface. It's best to discover the blistering speed from an External Hard Drive or Wireless card/Gigabit controller over a blazing fast internet connection.
Regardless though... I've never really felt like USB 3.0 gives you that much of an advantage. USB 2.0 more than suffices, and most of the Thinkpads that people on here use(T4x, T6x, X6x) have USB 2.0.
When technology improves and USB 3.0 products become completely commonplace, I'm sure you'll be experiencing those blistering fast USB 3.0 speeds more often. But until then... don't worry too much. Just be glad your Thinkpad has USB 3.0.
Regardless though... I've never really felt like USB 3.0 gives you that much of an advantage. USB 2.0 more than suffices, and most of the Thinkpads that people on here use(T4x, T6x, X6x) have USB 2.0.
When technology improves and USB 3.0 products become completely commonplace, I'm sure you'll be experiencing those blistering fast USB 3.0 speeds more often. But until then... don't worry too much. Just be glad your Thinkpad has USB 3.0.
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Re: USB 3.0 port speeds not much faster?
The USB 2.0 port can transfer at about 25MB/sec.
USB 3.0 can see do about 300 MB/sec.
Are the files that you are copying off the ThinkPad on a HDD or SSD? If it is an HDD, then it will do about 100 MB/sec.
Run a speed test and see where the bottleneck is, but as others pointed out, that USB 3.0 drive is the likely culprit. With a decent flash drive, you should be seeing around 4X speed increase.
USB 3.0 can see do about 300 MB/sec.
Are the files that you are copying off the ThinkPad on a HDD or SSD? If it is an HDD, then it will do about 100 MB/sec.
Run a speed test and see where the bottleneck is, but as others pointed out, that USB 3.0 drive is the likely culprit. With a decent flash drive, you should be seeing around 4X speed increase.
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Re: USB 3.0 port speeds not much faster?
Three of four USB 3.0 speeds are not faster than USB 2.0 speeds.sjahanmi wrote:Is it just me or is the USB 3.0 speeds really not that much faster than the regular USB 2.0?
Two electrical busses are in a 3.0 connector: SuperSpeed and conventional busses. I did not read documentation, so I do not know what is the correct terminology. It is possible, your data transferred via the "conventional bus" instead of the SuperSpeed bus.sjahanmi wrote:I tried transferring about 9 gigs of music using a USB 3.0 flash drive via my USB 3.0 port
I find a huge advantage for portables and non-expandable computers. In some modern systems, all outward-facing ports connect to chipset xHCI (internal components connect to a EHCI). These user-access ports handle High Speed traffic as if each port has a separate controller. Until just a few years ago, a typical laptop had one to seven (I think, this is the most I have seen) built-in USB 2.0 ports, and all ports shared one High Speed bus, one EHCI. A stationary desk computer might have had eight or ten built-in ports! If it is a expandable system, then more USB busses can be added. But several PCs are not very expandable: in USFF / ultra-compact PCs, mainboard chipset USB is the only option.Medessec wrote:I've never really felt like USB 3.0 gives you that much of an advantage.
Last edited by automobus on Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:08 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: USB 3.0 port speeds not much faster?
For very small files there isn't much difference, however with a total of 9 gigs (acknowledging the fact that the size of each file is also to be taken into account) you should have noticed an appreciable difference.
Try again whilst copying bigger files, e.g. hundreds of megabytes or several gigabytes.
Also since we don't know which TP you're using... it could come from crappy drivers or a crappy adapter.
Try again whilst copying bigger files, e.g. hundreds of megabytes or several gigabytes.
Also since we don't know which TP you're using... it could come from crappy drivers or a crappy adapter.
Re: USB 3.0 port speeds not much faster?
I'm using this USB 3.0 flash drive on a T440s: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BF9HYXQ
It had high reviews so I thought I was real 3.0...but the speeds are no different from 2.0
It had high reviews so I thought I was real 3.0...but the speeds are no different from 2.0
Re: USB 3.0 port speeds not much faster?
It does say right there "100MB/s read, 30MB/s write". 30MB/s write is really low for a USB3 drive (some USB2 drives are comparable), and is definitely within the capabilities of the USB2 controller.sjahanmi wrote:I'm using this USB 3.0 flash drive on a T440s: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BF9HYXQ
It had high reviews so I thought I was real 3.0...but the speeds are no different from 2.0
So you wouldn't notice any improvement copying files to the drive, but you should notice improvement copying from the drive.
Last edited by dr_st on Sat Dec 14, 2013 4:07 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: USB 3.0 port speeds not much faster?
Yea I should have read that stuff first I guess. Is installing the driver from the Intel website recommended over what Lenovo would have on their support site?
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