Using new T43 Power Manager (Maximiser) on T42 (IMG)

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Kenn · #1 Post by **Kenn** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 12:30 am

It's got a few new features, and from what I can tell, seems to work fine on the T42p.

Go here.

Choose the T43 and WinXP, hit Continue.

Download:
Power management driver for Windows 2000/XP - ThinkPad R52, T43/p

Execute the program, let it go into IBMTools. Open Thinpad Software Installer, uninstall Battery Maximiser, and install the Power Manager.

What you get is:
Cool graphs - everybody loves graphs. They're totally static for each setting though, like the gauge/display decals they give you for model airplane cockpits. That means the "fan noise" thing is a farce.

A new interface overall - much easier to create/edit/delete profiles, but not easier to select them (see pic).

Automatically-adjustable recharge thresholds - supposedly measures your usage and adjusts to maximize battery life.

Battery health warnings - Helpful or annoying? You decide.

Timer to change LCD refresh rate while on battery (it refreshes but I can't tell if it's working, and I'm especially and specifically good at noticing 5-10Hz differences in refresh rates)

Timer to change LCD brightness while on battery and AC. Works but refreshes the screen rather than auto-dims like when you press Fn-End.

Interestingly, the graph for battery life is mapped directly to LCD brightness. Nothing else, including CPU, timers, standby, will affect it (unless you set it to turn the display off after more than 15 minutes of inactivity, at which point it just takes off one tick).

stapol · #2 Post by **stapol** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 1:30 am

Hi kenn..

This program works with my t42p ...thx
Have u tried your new t43 battery into your t42p ? I'm just curious how long it will be in t42p. Thx

C.Schlehaus · #3 Post by **C.Schlehaus** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 3:06 am

Hi,
I had to reinstall my W2K on my T42p last weekend and thus I have the latest drivers and apps for the T42p available at IBM. Nevertheless I just tried to install the T43 power maximiser due to the new interface, while this ended up in a warning message that I would replace a newer version of this application (the T42p one) by an older one. I stopped installation cause I'd like to confirm the version downloadable at IBM of Oct. 2004 is really the version with the improved interface vs. the T42p version.
Thanks, Carlhermann

Kenn · #4 Post by **Kenn** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 3:31 am

stapol wrote:Hi kenn..

This program works with my t42p ...thx
Have u tried your new t43 battery into your t42p ? I'm just curious how long it will be in t42p. Thx

Hi Stapol,

The T43 was a demo model in the store, and I think I'd probably be in jail if I tried to swap the batteries out

I really wouldn't mind have a 20% greater charge, though!

I'll grab the model/fru for the battery next week and post it up so hopefully we can order it when it's time to get a replacement.

Kenn

Kenn · #5 Post by **Kenn** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 3:32 am

C.Schlehaus wrote:Hi,
I had to reinstall my W2K on my T42p last weekend and thus I have the latest drivers and apps for the T42p available at IBM. Nevertheless I just tried to install the T43 power maximiser due to the new interface, while this ended up in a warning message that I would replace a newer version of this application (the T42p one) by an older one. I stopped installation cause I'd like to confirm the version downloadable at IBM of Oct. 2004 is really the version with the improved interface vs. the T42p version.
Thanks, Carlhermann

Hi Carlhermann,

Don't get the Battery Maximiser Oct 04. Get the fourth one down, called "Power management driver for Windows 2000/XP - ThinkPad R52, T43/p" released Feb 09, 2005.

ian · #6 Post by **ian** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 11:34 am

Seems to work fine on my T42 (2373-CWU) - and not a 'P' in sight...

Merlyn_3D · #7 Post by **Merlyn_3D** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 3:03 pm

I tried it and it runs fine except there are no power management profiles in it at all and when I hit new and make one, it just dissappears when I'm done making it and doesn't create one. Can anyone help?

krosenstein · #8 Post by **krosenstein** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 3:34 pm

Any opinions on whether it will work on a T41?

yves · #9 Post by **yves** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 3:46 pm

Yes . It is working on my T41P GEU

tgtoss · #10 Post by **tgtoss** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 9:47 pm

yes .. it iworks... but if you want to reduce fan noise ... meaningless ..

dvorak · #11 Post by **dvorak** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 6:59 am

All is nice, but it has removed the option to disable Powerplay right from the menu. Now everytime I need more GPU power, I've got to roam through the Display Properties menus.

hupsing · #12 Post by **hupsing** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:28 pm

hi dudes,

the power manager V 1.01 (for T43 and R52) also
works on ....taaataaa.......R51

why is there no general tool for all the machines?

hupsing

#13 Post by **dorronto** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:31 pm

Any opinions if this works on a T40?????

Ron

hupsing · #14 Post by **hupsing** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:50 pm

I think so! Give it a try.

#15 Post by **dorronto** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:36 pm

Yes, it does work on a T40. I'll see how it actually works in the next week or two...........Ron

hupsing · #16 Post by **hupsing** » Sat Feb 11, 2006 8:10 am

I reported that the Power Manager V 1.01 (for T43 and R52)
works on a R51 (2888DG1) without any problems.
Now I got some problems using it on a T42P (2373W6M).
On the T42P everything seems fine but it is not possible
to change power profiles (clock, display level ...).

Is there anybody out there with a fully working Power Manager V 1.01
on a T42P?

Maybe my problems come from a former installation of
the tool "Notebook Hardware Control" ....

Thanx
Hupsing

dvorak · #17 Post by **dvorak** » Sat Feb 11, 2006 11:44 am

hupsing wrote:On the T42P everything seems fine but it is not possible
to change power profiles (clock, display level ...).

Maybe my problems come from a former installation of
the tool "Notebook Hardware Control" ....

You mean when you activate another profile, it won't do the necessary changes, or you can't "right click->modify" on some profiles?
If the latter, then that's normal, some profiles are pre-added and not changable.
If the former, then try shutting down your other apps, NHC, PMCPU, etc. and then try again.

hupsing · #18 Post by **hupsing** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 3:06 am

Hi dvorak,

yes, when I try to activate another profile in Power Manager 1.01
nothing happens, no switching of clock / display ...
Shutting down all other applicationa (mobile meter and notebook
hardware control) didn't change anything

But let me try the new Power Manager Version 1.12 for T43/T43P
(2006/02/13). Confusingly it says V1.03 in the T43/T43P driver matrix.

hupsing

hupsing · #19 Post by **hupsing** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 4:39 am

Hello everybody,

Hooray, I fixed it.
My problem were corrupted power profiles in the registry.
Maybe the problem occured using the tool Notebook Hardware Control 1.10 together with the Power Manager.

WARNING: Please make a backup of your registry before editing it.

To solve the problem I "cleaned" the following registry entries:

\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\PowerCfg\PowerPolicies

and

\HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Control Panel\PowerCfg\PowerPolicies
\HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-18\Control Panel\PowerCfg\PowerPolicies
\HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-19\Control Panel\PowerCfg\PowerPolicies
\HKEY_USERS\............\Control Panel\PowerCfg\PowerPolicies

and so on...

In all these branches there should be nothing but the default (windows) entries...
....\PowerCfg\PowerPolicies\1
....\PowerCfg\PowerPolicies\2
....\PowerCfg\PowerPolicies\3
....\PowerCfg\PowerPolicies\4
....\PowerCfg\PowerPolicies\5
....\PowerCfg\PowerPolicies\6

Do not delete these entries.

Higher numbers (>6) most often belong to profiles from tools like IBM Power Manager (Battery MaxiMiser) or Notebook Hardware Control. You can check that in the registry-key named "(Standard)".

When you clean all entries except number 1 - 6 you have a fresh setup for power profiles....
You can now install Power Manager or Battery Maximiser and should not get any problems with the profiles and switching between them.

I am not sure if Notebooks Hardware Control will make any problems with the schemes....theres is an option in this tool to let NHC manage his own power schemes...maybe this corrupts the registry entries and it is
therefore not possible (or recommended) to use both at the same time, NHC and Power Manager.

I hope this will help other guys who have trouble with their power profiles.

bye, hupsing

dvorak · #20 Post by **dvorak** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 7:23 am

I use both NHC and the Battery MaxiMiser without any complications. I did try Power Manager, worked well with CHC at that time, so yours must have been a weird glitch rather than a reoccuring bug.

Zed · #21 Post by **Zed** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 6:11 pm

To solve the problem I "cleaned" the following registry entries

Hello hupsing,

could you please be a bit more specific as "ich habe noch nie 'registry' redigieret" but have vary much the same problem. After I upgrated to the newest Notebook HC (1.10 BETA 01) all my sheme settings in have disappeared - both in IBM Battery MaxiMisser and in XP. I feel therefore a bit stuck - I tried to uninstall the NHC and reinstall the IBM BMM but it only made a great mess in my registry. In [HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Control Panel\PowerCfg\GlobalPowerPolicy] I now have no less then 20 (plus one -1) shemes

. I just wish I could get back my IBM Battery MaxiMisser settings and get them cooperating with NHC... I guess editing the registry is the only way...

Thanks to anybody willing to help Zed.

kstuart · #22 Post by **kstuart** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:17 pm

Kenn wrote:It's got a few new features, and from what I can tell, seems to work fine on the T42p.

Go here.

Choose the T43 and WinXP, hit Continue.

Download:
Power management driver for Windows 2000/XP - ThinkPad R52, T43/p

Execute the program, let it go into IBMTools. Open Thinpad Software Installer, uninstall Battery Maximiser, and install the Power Manager.

Before I try this out - is this still considered the "latest and greatest" - some months later ??

Thanks!

cmarti · #23 Post by **cmarti** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 7:51 pm

kstuart wrote:
Kenn wrote:It's got a few new features, and from what I can tell, seems to work fine on the T42p.

Go here.

Choose the T43 and WinXP, hit Continue.

Download:
Power management driver for Windows 2000/XP - ThinkPad R52, T43/p

Execute the program, let it go into IBMTools. Open Thinpad Software Installer, uninstall Battery Maximiser, and install the Power Manager.
Before I try this out - is this still considered the "latest and greatest" - some months later ??

Thanks!

Old topic revived!
I use it but went back to power maximizer i think it is giving me more battery life than the power manager.

kstuart · #24 Post by **kstuart** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 2:26 am

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