Checking the status of the embedded security chip...

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Checking the status of the embedded security chip...

#1 Post by syborg1211 » Thu Dec 07, 2006 2:00 pm

Why does it take so long on every boot up, and how can I disable it?

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#2 Post by syborg1211 » Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:12 pm

So I was able to disable the security chip, but the [censored] computer still "checks" the chip on every boot up! Why does it have to take so loooong? Now it gives me a warning about how my chip isn't activated and blah blah. I can't believe it's not possible to disable the chip and its software completely!
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#3 Post by whakojacko » Sat Dec 16, 2006 12:08 am

it is definitely possible. I have the chip disabled (as well as the software) but I still use the fingerprint reader for login
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#4 Post by own6volvos » Sat Dec 16, 2006 12:13 am

You need to uncheck the security software from the startup items in msconfig.

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Re: Checking the status of the embedded security chip...

#5 Post by Ken Fox » Sat Dec 16, 2006 12:16 am

syborg1211 wrote:Why does it take so long on every boot up, and how can I disable it?
Uninstall "Client Security" if you don't need it. I put up with it on my two Thinkpads for a few months (after downloading it) then decided it was a huge time waster of no value whatsoever to me. It's gone and I don't miss it.

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Re: Checking the status of the embedded security chip...

#6 Post by own6volvos » Sat Dec 16, 2006 12:23 am

Ken Fox wrote:
syborg1211 wrote:Why does it take so long on every boot up, and how can I disable it?
Uninstall "Client Security" if you don't need it. I put up with it on my two Thinkpads for a few months (after downloading it) then decided it was a huge time waster of no value whatsoever to me. It's gone and I don't miss it.

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Uninstalling isn't enough. Mine kept popping that up until I disabled it from loading at windows startup.

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Re: Checking the status of the embedded security chip...

#7 Post by Ken Fox » Sat Dec 16, 2006 1:01 am

own6volvos wrote:
Ken Fox wrote: Uninstall "Client Security" if you don't need it. I put up with it on my two Thinkpads for a few months (after downloading it) then decided it was a huge time waster of no value whatsoever to me. It's gone and I don't miss it.

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Uninstalling isn't enough. Mine kept popping that up until I disabled it from loading at windows startup.
I don't have a T60 yet so I can't comment. On both an X32 and a T42, the annoying embedded chip wait state vanished when I uninstalled the CS software.

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#8 Post by steveg47 » Sat Dec 16, 2006 8:36 am

uminstalling Client Security was all that was necessary for me. I later disabled the security chip in the bios with no observable additional effects.
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#9 Post by syborg1211 » Sat Dec 16, 2006 7:31 pm

Uninstalling the clienty security solution worked! Thanks for the help! Went from 5+ minute startups to the regular 1 minute ones!
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#10 Post by jjesusfreak01 » Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:12 am

I uninstalled CSS, but the fingerprint software works fine independently, so im still using that. Couldnt stand the 3+ minute waits for the "security" chip.
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#11 Post by Dark Energy » Tue Dec 19, 2006 12:18 pm

I had this exact same problem. Its not strictly necessary to uninstall CSS though. In essence, you have to go into CSS, then the 'advanced' menu and then 'manage security policies' and deactivate EVERYthing. Then do the same for the (separate) fingerprint software. My T60 is at home right now so I can give more details this evening if anyone is still interested...
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#12 Post by paddytb » Tue Dec 19, 2006 7:53 pm

Me too - I too disabled the Client Securtity Interface under Advanced/Manage Policies.

I still use the fingerprint software which works well, but I now can't work out how to re-activate the password manager. It worked before CSS was updated and when it was active, but not now that I've disabled CSS. :(
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#13 Post by intelliot » Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:24 am

I noticed that after my network settings seemed to get mixed up, reading the security chip took a long time: a few minutes at least. Then, for no apparent reason, it was faster: taking about 10 seconds.

What is the purpose of the chip? What are the possible statuses that it's checking for? Is there any side-effect to disabling the chip, since it sounds like fingerprint authentication still works?

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#14 Post by johnny0001 » Fri Dec 22, 2006 12:36 am

Hello,

I went to Advanced/Manage Policies for Client Security Solution and I disabled it. Everything looks better but on windows startup (after logging into windows), I am still getting the Client Security login box. What did I forget to do?

Also, is there any possible way to get rid of the message "Logon and setup fingerprint" on Windows welcome/login screen? It's not really a big deal but it's inattractive and would love to get rid of that.

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#15 Post by jjesusfreak01 » Fri Dec 22, 2006 1:13 pm

Alternatively, you can install CSS 6, which does not do this. I just reinstalled Windows on my T60 from a set of Rec Discs, and CSS6 is there and well, not giving me any problems. It is still available for download on the support site if you know where to look.
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#16 Post by Turboqueef » Sun Dec 24, 2006 12:53 pm

intelliot wrote:I noticed that after my network settings seemed to get mixed up, reading the security chip took a long time: a few minutes at least. Then, for no apparent reason, it was faster: taking about 10 seconds. ...
FYI:
Over the past few weeks, I noticed the boot up and recovery from hibernation was taking longer and longer. I found this post by searching "slow boot"...

Before tinkering my boot up took over 3 minutes and recovery from hibernation was over 2 minutes.

Not sure what fixed my problem but here is what I did:

** Opened Client Security Solutions
** Clicked on "Advanced" tab
** Selected "Change security chip status"
** Selected "Deactivate"
** Rebooted

When the system re booted, I got the notice that the security chip was not activated and I had to log into windows using the password (fingerprint swipe not offered anymore).

My password manager icon did not show up in the system tray and the secure drive was also missing.

I had stuff on the secure drive so I decided to "enable" the security chip in an attempt to get the data off this drive. I had every intention to completely disable / uninstall the client security solution software after I got my data off the secure drive but ....

My re-boot after I "activated" the security ship seemed much faster. Everything was back in order (fingerprint swipe was required, password manager and the secure drive were all there).

I have rebooted and recovered from hibernate several times and the process is much faster:

From full shut down, from the point I push the power button it take 1:41 to boot up to the point the password manager icon shows up in the system tray.

Hibernation recovery takes :52 seconds

I have no idea why the system slowed down so much over time but for now it seems back to normal.
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