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#31 Post by dr.b » Tue Jan 04, 2005 1:11 pm

UCI_MECH wrote:I have tried almost all the browsers available on the net (IE, Opera, Netscape, Firefox and others). Most of them will impress you if you are coming from IE but after a while you will find some annoying features or things you used to do in other browsers and you cannot do it with this browser.

To make the long story short, I found the ultimate and the only browser I will ever need. It is Maxthon (http://www.maxthon.com). If you were impressed by Firefox, you will be blown away with Maxthon. I have been using it now for a year and I still find new features I didn’t know about them before.

Give it a try and you will forget Firefox !!GUARANTEED!!

P.S. I don't work for Maxthon. I'm just a very satisfied user.
just an other gui for the ie, like abolimba and many more...

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#32 Post by k3vb0t » Tue Jan 04, 2005 2:34 pm

Firefox loads the same, if not faster, than IE for me. I enjoy the fact it places a box where an image is going to appear before loading the whole page - it lets me get to the text of the article I am trying to read.

And I agree, FFox is not as targeted as IE, but when a security issue does pop up, it is fixed almost immediately (thanks to the open source community). I remember reading an article a while back (I know, this means nothing without a link to back me up..) talking about how Microsoft knew about an exploit in IE or Windows for a long time (at least two months, iirc) before sending out a Windows Update.

I think around v.9 is when FFox had a security issue, and it was fixed at most within a week. That is what really impresses me about the entire community. It is simply done right. Extensions are needed in some cases, but I only have two installed (Adblock and Sage, an RSS reader).

Link to IE View v.84 (works for FFox .8-1.0, but not 1.0+ so I'm not sure if it works with the officially released 1.0) : Try this.

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#33 Post by UCI_MECH » Tue Jan 04, 2005 2:40 pm

dr.b wrote:just an other gui for the ie, like abolimba and many more...
It is true that Maxthon uses IE engine but it's light years ahead of IE (and the other browsers). As a matter of fact, it has a totally different browsing experience.

It is updated regularly. Almost every month there is a new version with new features, security patches or bugs fixes unlike Firefox.

See what people say about it in cnet.com http://www.download.com/3302-2356_4-10332111.html

You won't appreciate it until you try it. It is FREE.

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#34 Post by taphil » Tue Jan 04, 2005 4:13 pm

For FireFox - Is there a way to stop the auto-complete when you type urls in the address bar? I don't like that feature because I don't want random things popping up when other people use FF.

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#35 Post by UCI2CI » Tue Jan 04, 2005 6:19 pm

Rob Mayercik wrote:
UCI2CI wrote:there is even a nifty plugin which kinda spoofs websites into thinking firefox is internet explorer. Firefox is even better than internet explorer at being internet explorer :D
Got a link for this plugin?

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Here is the link:

http://useragentswitcher.mozdev.org/
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#36 Post by dr.b » Tue Jan 04, 2005 6:20 pm

UCI_MECH wrote:
It is updated regularly. Almost every month there is a new version with new features, security patches or bugs fixes unlike Firefox.
A Gui that needs security patches or patches to block the security holes in the engine? Its like repainting a nuclear plant. I prefer a enigne without..or say less holes.
UCI_MECH wrote: You won't appreciate it until you try it. It is FREE.
No thanks, I´m happy with opera....less ram and gdi-waste.
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#37 Post by hausman » Tue Jan 04, 2005 6:35 pm

UCI_MECH wrote:It is true that Maxthon uses IE engine but it's light years ahead of IE (and the other browsers).
If it uses the same engine as Internet Exploder then it's subject to most, if not all, of the same security issues as IE. That's nothing to crow about.
UCI_MECH wrote:As a matter of fact, it has a totally different browsing experience.
I don't doubt that the user's [bad] "experience" will be identical when it gets infected by all the stuff that's targetted against IE Classic :)
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#38 Post by UCI_MECH » Tue Jan 04, 2005 10:00 pm

dr.b wrote:A Gui that needs security patches or patches to block the security holes in the engine? Its like repainting a nuclear plant.
hausman wrote:If it uses the same engine as Internet Exploder then it's subject to most, if not all, of the same security issues as IE. That's nothing to crow about.
When Maxthon releases frequent updates, then that means it is more secure than IE.
dr.b wrote:I prefer a enigne without..or say less holes.
Who says that the other browsers have less security holes? They are just not the targets. Legend has it that infamous bank robber Willie Sutton, when asked why banks were his favorite target, responded, "Because that's where the money is."
dr.b wrote:No thanks, I´m happy with opera....less ram and gdi-waste.
That's why I'm using Maxthon.. because I'm happy with it. But I'd still say that you cannot judge a product without trying it.

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#39 Post by dr.b » Wed Jan 05, 2005 4:37 am

IE is a main part of the system, that means if target or not, opera and firefox are not and don´t have that security problems (not free of risk, but much less) .
And a gui can´t improve ram handling and security.
Btw, Ii just read something about maxthon, the mass of patches are not for ie-security holes, they fix the new holes that maxthon had...
That´s why I don´t need to try it.
Of course i believe You that Maxthon has a good handling and so on, so be happy with it.

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#40 Post by Guest » Wed Jan 05, 2005 11:19 pm

Firefox is the best. I have always hate netscape. and for me personally Opera never worked and had to many toolbards on top.
Firefox is the best gift to internet users. I downloaded it about a year ago now and been satisfied. I had a cookie issue that required me to use IE for secure sites. i downloaded firefox 1.0 and IE is gone. from my desktop recent programs if i need i have find it on my computer because i dont want to access it at all.

And the pup up blocker is scary. I don't know what popups are? Till I get to and IE computer on campus. For that reason alone i would recommen Firefox. Simple clean and safe

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#41 Post by Blake » Thu Jan 06, 2005 2:27 am

anyone know how to run full screen (F11) and still have the status bar at the bottom?
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#42 Post by rjm1135 » Thu Jan 06, 2005 3:19 am

Blake wrote:anyone know how to run full screen (F11) and still have the status bar at the bottom?
You can try this

http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/more-info/autohide

I quickly installed it and it seems to work - give it a try and see how it goes.

Cheers,
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#43 Post by Blake » Thu Jan 06, 2005 3:35 am

perfect thank you
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#44 Post by drewnyc » Mon Jul 25, 2005 3:20 pm

The IBM Client Security Password Manager does not work with Firefox. Any patches out there?
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#45 Post by mrdarcy » Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:06 am

I am not sure if IBM is willing to work with Firefox. All the stuff on IBM.com which are used to detect the model number and serial number are not working with Firefox, they only work on IE.
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#46 Post by MSR_Steve » Tue Jul 26, 2005 3:00 pm

drewnyc wrote:The IBM Client Security Password Manager does not work with Firefox. Any patches out there?
Which is rather bizarre since IBM encourages its employees to use Firefox as their in-house browser. :?

http://news.com.com/IBM+backs+Firefox+i ... g=nefd.top
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#47 Post by bhtooefr » Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:45 pm

That's because their stuff uses ActiveX.

They COULD release a Firefox extension that ties into ActiveX somehow so it would work on FF, but I doubt it would be easy...

And, I don't think Java can get close enough to the system to read that info.

Of course, there IS also just providing an EXE to grab the type and serial number, and copy-and-pasting... I think that's actually Dell's solution, but it works...
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#48 Post by GomJabbar » Tue Jul 26, 2005 6:32 pm

Yeah, but what does Active X have to do with using the IBM Client Security Software? I don't think that the CSS needs Active X. One can use IE when they browse IBM/Lenovo's website and need the features of Active X. When they do their other browsing they can use Firefox, or what ever suits their fancy.

That's what I do. I use Netscape 7.2 or Firefox for general use and IE only when absolutely necessary. I won't use the CSS, because I really don't gain much, if it doesn't support the browser I prefer to use. Hopefully someone at Lenovo will come up with a solution soon.
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#49 Post by bhtooefr » Tue Jul 26, 2005 7:34 pm

Ah... I was replying to mrdarcy's comment about the type/serial autodetection requiring IE.

As for drwenyc's comment, that would be a trivial extension for IBM to write for Firefox to plug into the CSPM... In fact, if IBM were REALLY good, they could create a plugin API for the CSPM. Actually, come to think of it, BioAPI (the API for the fingerprint reader on Linux) plugs into PAM, which can be used for authentication in Firefox, IIRC. If that's the case, a good patch that I've found is at http://mandrivalinux.com - you'll have to repartition, though...

Same here, though, on the using an alternative browser (Opera here) unless IE is absolutely necessary (or MSN Messenger brings up an IE window rather than open in default browser :evil:).
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#50 Post by mrdeucie » Fri Sep 16, 2005 1:06 am

Quite late, but I just wanted to throw my support behind Avant Browser. I've tried Firefox before when it was still firebird and wasn't really happy with it. Avant browser seems to fit the best with my browsing style, but it does have it's quirks sometimes and it is a huge memory hog.

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#51 Post by Kyocera » Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:22 pm

I used firefox two different times, loved the extensions, themes, mouse gestures, etc. But found myself constantly downloading plugins, it seemed rather novel at first then I just got tired of tweaking it all the time. Just to lazy I guess, but I definately recommend it to people to try who don't particularly like to battle spyware at the front lines with IE.

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#52 Post by bhtooefr » Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:41 pm

Tired of tweaking all the time?

Opera's the way to go. It's great when untweaked - no extensions necessary - but can still be tweaked as necessary (no extensions, but the config files can do almost anything).
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#53 Post by Deckard » Fri Sep 23, 2005 6:15 am

Firefox 1.5 Beta is out.

I've downloaded and installed it, it's working fine.

Save your bookmarks before upgrading, just in case.

http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/

Some of the extensions may not work properly. In this case, search the extensions on Google, most of them have the updated versions on the corresponding pages.

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#54 Post by bhtooefr » Fri Sep 23, 2005 9:46 am

Opera 8.5 is out, and there's no extensions to have errors.

Also, there's no ad banner any more in the free version :D
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