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Re: My Internet Connection

#61 Post by Puppy » Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:55 am

AIX wrote:To whom?!
To the company that connects you. Here they want an extra pay for every meter of cable unless they connects big block of apartments at once.
AIX wrote:And mind, we don't have heritage buildings or villages you might have around the Prague, the suburbs are just regular villages, nothing fancy - there are no fantastic regulations, and the mayors...
I am talking about new modern houses around Prague or other cities or regular villages. It is not about regulation in historical centre or so on. The issue is laziness and lack of interest of all telco/internet providers because "lay a cable to single house is not economical (anywhere) ... blah blah".
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Re: My Internet Connection

#62 Post by AIX » Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:22 am

Puppy, according to Valve (Steam), the average download speed in Czech Republic is 11.3 Mbps, for Romania is 24 Mbps, and yet you have managed to download more data: 542 TB vs. 417 TB. So it's not all about the speed. :P

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Re: My Internet Connection

#63 Post by tarvoke » Thu Jan 22, 2015 2:34 pm

a large fraction of all countries in the world have USF, Universal Service Fund. it's supposed to be used for last-mile type work.

usually the way this works is that the telcos/operators pay taxes/levies every year into the fund. these pools mostly only grow in size because they never get spent for plenty of reasons/excuses.
(in 2008 or 2013, India announced its pool was USD4billion, or maybe that was USD11Billion, either was is a crazy amount, and was to be spent on free! Nationwide Broadband by something like 2015 or 2020. not so sure I see it happening. and those aren't even the largest endowments compared to some other countries.)

generally USF most have rules along the lines of:
- the companies are required to do the work, even if there's monetary loss instead of profit.
- except... as Puppy and others have mentioned, there's all sorts of conditions that have to be met first. the companies can use engineering surveys / census as a valid excuse for refusing (making up a random example here: it could be along the lines of "there is required to be at least 1 wired payphone in a non-incorporated town populated by 200 people)
- it makes sense to take the easy way out and do some form of wireless. but, again: too few people? no towers for you!
- but some countries already have plenty of copper pairs and dark-fiber in place! oh well, telco still doesn't want to be bothered with lighting it up? company finds a suitable population density rule that lets them off the hook.
- data-entry glitches: wrong side of the street? zipcode slightly off by one number? "we don't service your building." "but all the other apartments in my building already have working DSL." "no, you must be mistaken."

other thoughts:
- I work at least a couple times a month on satellites with ships at sea. ridiculously expensive. pathetic downlink, even worse uplink, terrible latency. (made even worse by the fact everyone on the boats seem to be constantly watching soccer or adult videos, all day every day, ha.)

- a couple times, I've tethered laptop to unlimited-4G phone for a week or two, it's not bad but wasn't great (no secret-soft-caps or secret-throttling, it was simply consistently mediocre. which was good enough given the area only very recently got 4G)

- I've got a single powerline-ethernet connection from one end of the house to the other, just because it's easier. it goes through at least 2 different circuits and possible 2 different breakers, which really feels like it shouldn't work.
but...
years ago, industry were getting very excited about large-scale-powerline-ISP ideas. which would be great given mains electricity is just about everywhere. but seemed to run into too many issues: prohibitive distances, user density too high sometimes: i.e. bandwidth sharing not to mention would to many signals to weird things to the transmission stations, security/encryption,

- other years ago, I was helping do some design for a friend running a 'NetCafe in Uganda. this is actually one of my most favorite solutions: cheap, robust, secure, does clean/seamless handoffs, very low power to operate, doesn't require mains electricity...
easy/fun/quick project, get yourself a:
- meshpotato (I prefer the v1's solid weatherproof case and layout/flexibility of its power and other connectors; v2 looks good but I've never used one)
- solar panel, charge controller, whatever SLA car battery you may have lying around - or a spiffy new glassmat marine battery can't hurt (and meshpotao runs off 9-40VDC, so you have quite a lot of flexibility in this power system) ((oh wait it says charge controller built in. it also says 110-250VAC although I forget that means it also has a switching transformer built in, or maybe just means any universal DC brick will do...))
- optional: an analog phone. yeah, all you have to do is plug it in and immediately be able to call any other potato in your bubble-mesh-network

a single node like this comes to, ?USD300-400? although a lot more if you're investing in actual security chassis.

the software is very well written, so not really too much to set up. (WDS key stuff; passwords; phone# for the potatophone?)

plug one or more of the nodes into an available Internet connection. start placing overlapping bubbles as far as you like. turns out you have Internet (wired, or could even be wireless) at some other corner of the bubble? eh just plug it in, the software already understands redundancy and how to correctly share routing.

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Re: My Internet Connection

#64 Post by jdrou » Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:53 pm

ThinkPad560X wrote:Would this be good for me and how well is 4G network? http://www.verizonwireless.com/home-off ... ith-voice/
You might check here to see if anyone has tested the network in your area:
http://sensorly.com/map/4G/US/USA/Veriz ... #|coverage
(Tests by users rather than claims by provider.)

I've been using Verizon 4G/LTE as my only internet for several months now and I've been pretty satisfied with it.

Speeds I've tested:
speedtest.net from work
40ms ping
43.13 Mbps down / 6.65 Mbps up

home
27ms ping
50 Mbps down / 7.78 Mbps up

relatives' house (to Troy, MI server; closer ones are worse)
39ms ping
19 Mbps down / 5 Mbps up

I'm using their prepaid (no-contract) tablet plan (i.e. no voice service). I use both USB tethering and wifi hotspot to share the connection. (Wifi doesn't work as well as USB for gaming.)
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Re: My Internet Connection

#65 Post by ThinkPad560X » Fri Jan 23, 2015 3:29 am

Ok, i used my zip 15670, I don't live in the town. following the Hwy east I got the very light purple. Also my internet has been messing up a lot these past 2 months now. don't know if its being limited or not, when watching videos online and just trying to load a web page, on the bottom task bar you'll see a computer monitor marked as "Network Internet Access" But now i get a lot of this page cannot be loaded. and get a (!) on the computer monitor that says "Network No Internet Access" Ran the diagnostics and fails to get working. I go out to check the WindSteam WiFi modem box and the Power light is on, DSL light on, LAN 1 "My PC pluged in" Internet light is off, and WiFi on. They tell me I have broadband, but all the stuff I have on the routers say DSL and bill is for 3mbps witch I get around 1.XXmbps with the online tester and bill is $82.00 a month, also the line comes in through the phone line with this adapter splitter http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21i7rlnF9vL.jpg . So is the Verizon 4G MiFi not going to work for me then?

I have this box now: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31FpZF9UXpL.jpg
Use to have this one: http://images.addoway.com.s3.amazonaws. ... 04c1d0.jpg

I also have this for my ThinkPad, not activated and wanted to get the 4G MiFi for home and use this for mobile: PCMCIA Verizon Broadband Access Card PC5740 http://omnibooks.info/pics/pcmcia_pc5740.jpg
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#66 Post by GomJabbar » Fri Jan 23, 2015 4:21 am

Rather than use a PCMCIA card, consider getting a WiFi hotspot. You want one that supports LTE in your area. WiFi hotspots have a couple of advantages over PC cards (I've had both).

A hotspot battery will usually last several hours streaming video, and much longer for website browsing and email. This saves the battery in your laptop. WiFi consumes quite a bit less power than cellular in my experience. Of course you need a laptop that has WiFi - either built in or via a PC card.

A hotspot can be placed near a window to get a stronger signal, while you keep your laptop in a more convenient spot.

A hotspot can be shared on occasion, even if that is not something you would normally want to do. I use an encrypted WiFi connection between my laptop and hotspot. If I want to share the hotspot, I change the encryption passphrase temporarily via the hotspot web interface, and give the temporary passphrase to the person I want to share the hotspot with. After the session is over, I restore my original passphrase so that my hotspot is not accessed without my knowledge.

I doubt if WiFi will be phased out anytime soon, but PCMCIA cards are now old technology. I wouldn't expect to see PCMCIA card slots on new laptops. Maybe ExpressCard slots, but I even wonder about their future.
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Re: My Internet Connection

#67 Post by tarvoke » Fri Jan 23, 2015 11:12 am

(silly me for forgetting the obvious)

Puppy, there are companies that make pretty amazing weatherproof directional stations.

one called Ubiquiti, in particular. (stupid of me not to remember, this is actually the same company that provides OEM basic guts for meshpotato - only obvs the mesh stations using omni-antenna rather than directional. also, Ubiquiti uses their own software, rather than BATMAN or whatever)

it definitely requires line-of-sight with no obstruction.
- I have read reports of people doing 1 mile - with light obstruction, and performance not too degraded.
- friend of mine set up a link from an island to mainland military base - flat, non-obstructed - 3 miles. (I think he had found a nice discount, 2 nanostations for USD100; he may have also paid for some 3rd-party add-on better antennae.)
- read some people claiming 10-15 miles unobstructed, but either they're fibbing or else they added on some crazy aftermarket amplifiers and antennas.

anyways, if you have rooftop LOS to some (internet-having-)friend's rooftop, it's a fun project.
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Re: My Internet Connection

#68 Post by FryPpy » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:55 pm

ThinkPad560X wrote: I also have this for my ThinkPad, not activated and wanted to get the 4G MiFi for home and use this for mobile: PCMCIA Verizon Broadband Access Card PC5740 http://omnibooks.info/pics/pcmcia_pc5740.jpg
This is OLD EvDo module. Max speed for it is 2MB/s and lower :( <1MB/s)
Read this necrotopic for other glitch with this module and ThinkPad :(
Modern 3G networks can work faster if you can catch some good signal (check with 3G/4G smartphone).

There are many USB 3G / 4G dongles if MiFi hotspot is not needed. I agree that hotspot don't eat Thinkpad battery and can be mounted on window or where the signal strength is maximum. But it have it's own battery and can run down in most important moment:(

BTW did your 3G 4G operators can sell plans with devices (hotspots or USB dongles)? Our operators can and often such devices are cheaper than separately bought on market. But these devices are locked for one operator and useless if you decide to switch ISPs. And commonly plans sold with devices are data-only and less flexible.

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#69 Post by ajkula66 » Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:31 pm

ThinkPad560X wrote: I go out to check the WindSteam WiFi modem box and the Power light is on, DSL light on, LAN 1 "My PC pluged in" Internet light is off, and WiFi on.
Two things can cause this:

a) A saturated remote DSLAM which cannot service all the circuits that are tied into it, I've had this happen with my own VZ DSL more than once.

b) A defective router. If the situation doesn't change after re-booting the router, my money would be on that remote DSLAM being the culprit.
They tell me I have broadband, but all the stuff I have on the routers say DSL and bill is for 3mbps witch I get around 1.XXmbps with the online tester and bill is $82.00 a month, also the line comes in through the phone line with this adapter splitter http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21i7rlnF9vL.jpg .
As I've stated before, DSL *is* broadband. You have an ADSL circuit which shares the twisted copper pair with your phone line. Nothing unusual about that.

You really, truly need to keep on complaining to Windstream until things get better or an alternate ISP comes to your neck of the woods. I know I would.

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Re: My Internet Connection

#70 Post by ThinkPad560X » Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:36 am

Is the Dslam on my end or theirs? I reset the router a few times already and even left it off for a few hours and pluged back in.
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#71 Post by ajkula66 » Sat Jan 24, 2015 7:32 am

DSLAM is on their end, and given your distance from the central office as well as your town's population is likely to be even further than the CO itself.
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#72 Post by RealBlackStuff » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:10 am

Maybe a stupid suggestion, but wouldn't Directv give you a viable solution?
Satellite TV, satellite internet and satellite phone all-in-one...
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#73 Post by ajkula66 » Sat Jan 24, 2015 12:43 pm

RealBlackStuff wrote:Maybe a stupid suggestion, but wouldn't Directv give you a viable solution?
It's not a stupid suggestion, but with anything of this nature location + weather conditions = everything.

We've had satellite TV while in Upstate NY and any time the weather got nasty, the reception did the same thing...

Given that OP is not all that far from Pittsburgh, I'd be scared...
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#74 Post by ThinkPad560X » Sat Jan 24, 2015 6:26 pm

Tv services wouldn't work for me either, had Direct Tv and now have Dish, they combine Tv/Phone/Internet and the internet is partnerd with WindStream still for internet service so still get the same ISP.
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#75 Post by RealBlackStuff » Sun Jan 25, 2015 8:33 am

Move somewhere else...
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#76 Post by TTY » Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:49 am

ThinkPad560X, is the $ 82 monthly bill for internet and phone only, or for internet, phone, and dish television?

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#77 Post by ThinkPad560X » Sun Jan 25, 2015 1:48 pm

Just phone and internet, requires the phone for internet too.
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#78 Post by ThinkPad560X » Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:17 pm

I just got a Verizon MiFi Jetpack for $50 a month 5GB usage. So I got it to test for now. but I want to know how much data I use on my DSL before I fully get into this. How do I tell how much GBs I use with WindStream? I just download Windows updates, Steam updates with games "mostly updates now" read email, ebay/Amazon, and watch youtube videos of reviews and tech that range from 15min to hour and 30.

I told them about my PCMCIA Verzion card and they said its old now 3G and not in service but told them when I had it active I had unlimted witch they said they don't offer Unlimited anymore. Just 5GB, 10GB, 15GB and 20GB.
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#79 Post by rkawakami » Sat Jan 31, 2015 8:01 pm

I would say call up your DSL provider and ask them if there is a way to audit your connection. It may be that they can't (or won't) do it; with DSL and cable being both essentially an "unlimited" service, there's no need to monitor usage. You could also see if there's a counter in your DSL modem/router that keeps track of packets or MB/GB of data that flows through your connection. If there is, there may be a way to simply clear the counters and start monitoring your usage over time. If that's not possible, or you don't want to take a chance at screwing up your modem/router settings, then note the number of packets/MB currently listed and then check it again in a months time and do the math. How big is a "packet"? It sort of depends but I think if you use 1500 bytes as an average, you'll probably be in the ballpark.

MiFi would not be a good substitute for DSL or cable since anyone that does offer unlimited data over-the-air, is not going to be cost-effective when comparing to what the phone company or cable TV provider charges. Of course this assumes that where you live is actually served by those companies.

As an aside, how did you get a $50/5GB plan with Verizon? When I looked at their site a few weeks ago for data-only plans, there were just two: $60/3GB and $90/10GB. I recently switched one of my hotspot services to T-Mobile. I'm starting out with a $30/3GB plan and will probably switch over to the $50/7GB plan when Sprint shuts down their WiMAX service this November.
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#80 Post by ThinkPad560X » Sat Jan 31, 2015 10:58 pm

It was a sale thing, get free MiFi and 5GB for $50 month if got it today. I contacted the WindStream through chat, "Phone call waited for over an hour" Told them, my internet keeps stopping and lagging, and told them that everyone I knew was getting 7Mbps-12Mbps for $35-$50 and told them I must have a old plan "12 Years". So they said to call Monday to get a lowering price and they have 6Mbps to 12Mbps ones. They also said they are going to go through the line from my place to their hub for leaks and such. So hopefully they get it straighten out. Lost internet last night and into the morning. As for the MiFi, I may use it like my Verizon PCMCIA card and use it when I go to work to have internet.
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#81 Post by rkawakami » Sun Feb 01, 2015 2:21 am

Being as far away from the central office that you say you are (~16,000'), getting 1+ Mbps sounds about right (in my experience with DSL). You might see 1.3 or 1.4 on a good, clean pair of copper but I seriously doubt you'll get near the 3Mbps that your plan says you should have (and Windstream should know that). If Windstream's lowest tier of service is for 3Mbps, I'd complain. You should get a lower price as compensation, instead of being told about 6 and 12Mpbs plans. Only problem is that you've said they're about the only broadband game in town. You know it, they know it. That makes threatening to move to a competitor less effective.

I'm about at that point with my own DSL service. I'm playing AT&T about $65/mo. for 1.5M/384K DSL service and typically getting about 1.2M down. (Just ran a speed test at dslreports.com and I'm getting 1.27M down and 320K up.) It's $65 since my HSI Express plan is $40 but it's on my "second" phone line that itself costs $25. When I moved in here there were plenty of copper pairs coming in from the street that I decided to tie the DSL onto its own line. It made provisioning the line inside the house easier as I only had to add a filter on the one phone extension. Several times since I been in this house, I've received a lower price for the same DSL service for a year (it went down from $40 or $50 to $15 or $20). This was by calling them up and saying I was thinking about changing service providers and then being routed to the "Retention Department". One time it was when I called AT&T on behalf of my daughter to arrange for DSL service in Los Angeles when she moved there. They gave her an introductory rate of $15/mo. for one year. At the end of the phone conversation, the agent asked if there was anything else he could do. I told him as a long time customer it would be nice to get the same discount. I did as long as I added Caller ID and one other service for $6. So I saved some money over the long haul. However, now that web sites are delivering data-intensive media and I have my own need for high speed uploads at home, 1.5Mbps/384Kbps DSL is never going to do. So it really doesn't matter how little I pay, DSL is not the answer for me.

For the same $65 a month, I can sign up for Xfinity Performance service from Comcast and get up to 50Mbps download and 10Mbps upload speeds. Even if all my neighbors are sucking up the bandwidth at the same time, I should be able to get 1/10th my rated speed. That's still at least 3x better than what I have now. I will probably have to make some changes to my interior network by adding a couple of wireless bridges but that's not too much of a problem. And again, with "introductory" discounts, the $65 Comcast plan is only $40 a month for one year.
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#82 Post by ThinkPad560X » Sun Feb 01, 2015 3:02 am

Google Fiber is expanding 1000Mbps, Very slowly though. https://fiber.google.com/newcities/ I'll probably see it around 10 years or never if ISP can own a area for them selves. I may not need 1000Mbps, even 10mbps would be fine for me.
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#83 Post by ThinkPad560X » Mon Feb 02, 2015 1:09 pm

Well I got even more bad news today. They came out to replace with a new new box router and told me they are going to charge to RENT the boxes now "started at beginning of the year". I asked about the internet lags and completely no internet and said they probably don't have any plans to upgrade their local office hub around me and no fiber lines. The rent for the box is going to add another $5 to bill and finial they cant lower my bill since its the lowest and probably only going to get 1Mbps now out here from what I was told. So my total is going to be around $86-$88 a month now.
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#84 Post by rkawakami » Mon Feb 02, 2015 2:13 pm

Google Fiber is not the answer for 99% of the population. It's still being looked at here in San Jose and this is supposed to be the heart of High Tech. My guess is that it will be another 3-5 years before residents here in this area could be connected to the grid. If you happen to be lucky (?) to live in Provo, UT, Austin, TX or Kansas City, MO, then congratulations on being able to get "free" basic internet service (after the $600 or so you need to spend to get connected).

For the $90 a month you are going to be paying for DSL, you could get Verizon's 10GB/month data plan with your hotspot. T-Mobile appears to top out at $70 for 11GB and Sprint has a $80/12GB data plan but of course you'll have to change your hotspot if you go with those companies.

My suggestion would be to see if Windstream can temporarily suspend your DSL service for a month while you see if you can get by with the 5GB from your Verizon hotspot. I say "suspend" rather than "disconnect" or "close your account" because if the Verizon hotspot does not work out, then you'll probably have to go back to DSL and this way you could avoid any "connect" or "new account" fees. Note that Verizon's "normal" data plans are either $60/3GB or the $90/10GB so if you can stay under 5GB/month and keep the $50/5GB plan as long as you want, that's a pretty good deal from them.

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ref: http://coverage.sprint.com/IMPACT.jsp
ref: http://www.t-mobile.com/coverage.html
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#85 Post by wisdomkeeper » Sun Feb 08, 2015 8:22 am

ajkula66 wrote:a) While I don't know Bulgaria all that well - not to mention that it's been more than 15 years since I've last crossed its border - I'd presume that the pole structure is in place from the days of Todor Zhivkov, which is a thing of beauty. The "path" - as it's often referred to - is all that really matters.
That's not true. In Bulgaria almost all of the infrastructure is new and ISP-s are continuing to build. Our internet services are not running tru copper telephone cables. The networks from the near past were mainly SFTP cable, now the network infrastructure swiches to fibreoptical points, from where the connection to the customers is either FTP or fibreoptical.
There is no true competition in your countries on the telecommunications market, only a few big players, so you are suffering from the monopoly in this sector. Even worse, the big players make it impossible for another smaller companies to emerge on the market. Also, there are no big investments in new equipment or for expanding the network.
It's true that the salary here is much lower than in US or GB, absolutely.
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If there are ISP-s that can provide internet service with acceptable speed and there is no coverage in your area, but near and you have friends in the coverage area, you can consider installing access points with directional antennas on both sides. I don't know why so many of you are complaining about slow internet speed, but doing nothing at all. Here, in Bulgaria with no more 1000$ capital you can emerge on the ISP market. I have no idea what are the regulations in regions where you live, people. But it seems that the western freedom in only illusion. I can't even think what it could be for IT man like me to use some laggy internet connection with speed like 1-3Mbps. Can you even consider downloading drivers from the sites of the hardware manufacturers with sizes of hundreds of megabytes? What about bandwidth demanding applications like video streaming or else? There is also content like games that you can buy online and download. I can't even consider downloading something like this with the slow internet connection. Games are as big as 80GB(gigabytes) It can take more than day even here to download such a large file.
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It's not even true that the copper is expensive. 305 meters of copper FTP cable is about hundred levs in Bulgaria. The fibreoptical cable with 6 fibres is about the same price like FTP, but it requires expensive equipment for "termination" and "connection". The price of the splicer for connecting Fibreoptical cables is about 7,000-10,000levs. Contrary FTP requires only RJ45 crimpers. The price of the cheap one with acceptable quality is about 20levs. The disadvange is that FTP is not good solution if you want to build large network. It requires one switch per 100 meters of FTP cable, because of signal loss.

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#86 Post by ajkula66 » Sun Feb 08, 2015 11:12 am

wisdomkeeper wrote: That's not true. In Bulgaria almost all of the infrastructure is new and ISP-s are continuing to build. Our internet services are not running tru copper telephone cables.
I don't think that you understood what I was referring to as a "path".

Poles and manholes are in place. From a zillion years ago, everywhere. That's "the path". What one runs through/over that "path" is a whole another matter.
It's not even true that the copper is expensive.
What I was referring to is the price on the international market. Compare the wholesale cost of copper from 15 years ago to the one that is in place now, and you'll understand where I was coming from.
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#87 Post by wisdomkeeper » Sun Feb 08, 2015 11:57 am

ajkula 66 wrote:Pipes and manholes are in place. From a zillion years ago, everywhere. That's "the path"
So you say that in the so progressive west, there are no manholes and pipes? ISP-s in Bulgaria are builing and expanding their pipe networks even now. There were only BTC manholes/pipes from the communist time - and not everywhere.. In many places the cables were directly put in the earth. We dig, when it's necessary. So our companies could expand their networks, but yours cannot?
You were speaking about the price of the copper on the international market? If we can buy copper and fiber cables and build such a networks why the companies in your country can't? Do you think the companies in your country are poorer than in our?
Well, in your country you have lazy corporative monopolists. What you think about this? Because I think that the sitizens in your country probably allowed this to happen.
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#88 Post by ajkula66 » Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:28 pm

wisdomkeeper wrote: So you say that in the so progressive west, there are no manholes and pipes?
Of course there are. They are just above and beyond congested. If I sent you a picture of what an average manhole in Manhattan looks like you'd likely faint.
ISP-s in Bulgaria are builing and expanding their pipe networks even now.
Of course they are. I never doubted that for a split second.
So our companies could expand their networks, but yours cannot?
They can, they just don't deem it to be worth their time and money.
You were speaking about the price of the copper on the international market? If we can buy copper and fiber cables and build such a networks why the companies in your country can't? Do you think the companies in your country are poorer than in our?
It's not a matter of being poor. Whatsoever. All of the "good old boys" are filthy rich. The price of (mostly unionized) human labour - along with certain regulations that have been in place for the longest time - makes any expansion of the network extremely expensive. That's all.
Well, in your country you have lazy corporative monopolists. What you think about this? Because I think that the sitizens in your country probably allowed this to happen.
Lazy they're not. Corporate monopolies they are. My paycheck happens to come from one of them, so I'm familiar with the system all too well.

As for "your/mine" country...I grew up and lived most of my adult life not all that far from where you are. And yes, in my town of birth they are laying FTTH like crazy as well. When I left that place almost 16 years ago, most of the capital city was still on pulse dial...

Here, over the pond, a whole another ball game is in place. Not necessarily a likeable one.
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#89 Post by wisdomkeeper » Sun Feb 08, 2015 1:25 pm

I think that expanding the network worth the time and money of the companies - to provide high quality services with competitive prices. In Bulgaria the people are not slaves, here also the work they are doing is paid. Today there is demand for high bandwidth and low latency connections. Cloud storage, streaming media, IP Television requires speed and quality. It's time for the the monopoly companies in your country to adapt. It's ridiculous to have 2-3 Megabits per 50$ in year 2015, 21 century.
The technology cannot wait anymore the big corporations that don't want to provide services with high quality, but want to control the whole situation in the digital media/IT sector and only to collect profits. It's not how the market economy should work. Antimonopoly laws and protection from the government are REQUIRED.

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#90 Post by ajkula66 » Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:05 pm

wisdomkeeper wrote:I think that expanding the network worth the time and money of the companies - to provide high quality services with competitive prices.
Well, the decision-makers here would beg to differ, and that's the problem. It pays more to invest in wireless, and that's what everyone's doing. When I say "everyone", I mean the companies who own "the path" in most of the U.S.A. Two obese, arrogant, ruthless, over-sized Baby Bells.
In Bulgaria the people are not slaves, here also the work they are doing is paid.
Of course the Bulgarian people are not slaves. But that's not an issue here.
It's time for the the monopoly companies in your country to adapt.
Well, these companies are in a very good place and couldn't care less about adapting. Things are different in *my* country and very much resemble what's going on in your country.
It's ridiculous to have 2-3 Megabits per 50$ in year 2015, 21 century.
Agreed.
It's not how the market economy should work.
Agreed once again.
Antimonopoly laws and protection from the government are REQUIRED.
Good luck with that concept on this side of the pond. Money talks. Period.
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