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CD-ROM in DOCK I (3545) stopped working

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CD-ROM in DOCK I (3545) stopped working

#1 Post by Bondi » Thu Nov 14, 2024 8:15 am

The SCSI CD-ROM used to work fine in my DOCK I. But yesterday it started to throw an error at boot - 1047000 221. The message is from SCSI controller telling that it couldn't find a connected device.
The CD-ROM blinks and tries to read at boot, then stops and the error appears.
I managed to make it work once after reseating the cables and jumpers. But only once and not for long. Further reseating didn't help.
The CD unit was NOS when I got it, and I made no manipulations with the machine recently. Was just standing on the desk.
Any Ideas how to cure? Any help is very much appreciated!
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Re: CD-ROM in DOCK I (3545) stopped working

#2 Post by RealBlackStuff » Thu Nov 14, 2024 10:12 am

Maybe check for and clean any corrosion on all contacts?
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Re: CD-ROM in DOCK I (3545) stopped working

#3 Post by Misu » Sat Nov 16, 2024 2:20 pm

Hi,

Try to check the CD-ROM unit on some other, known working, SCSI controller. If you have a terminator on the cable, check it also. Do you see the SCSI controller in the OS after boot?
Anything can stop to work anytime on 30+ years old electric stuff.

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Re: CD-ROM in DOCK I (3545) stopped working

#4 Post by Misu » Sat Nov 16, 2024 2:26 pm

Try this utility:

http://annex.retroarchive.org/cdrom/2th ... index.html

And if you do not have the manual for the dock - here it can be found:

https://bitsavers.computerhistory.org/p ... 199301.pdf

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Re: CD-ROM in DOCK I (3545) stopped working

#5 Post by Bondi » Mon Nov 18, 2024 12:19 pm

RealBlackStuff wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2024 10:12 am
Maybe check for and clean any corrosion on all contacts?
That's the second thing I tried after reseating. I have only alcohol on hand, no deoxit unfortunately.
Misu wrote:
Sat Nov 16, 2024 2:26 pm
Try this utility:

http://annex.retroarchive.org/cdrom/2th ... index.html

And if you do not have the manual for the dock - here it can be found:

https://bitsavers.computerhistory.org/p ... 199301.pdf
Thanks a lot for the links and for the advise. I have no other equipment to try the drive on. But it now magically works. Yet I feel it's flaky. Can it be the capacitors in the dock?
Still very nice to have this SCSI utility. Will try it out to see what capabilities it has.

EDIT: Tried the SCSI utility. It's a very neat test program :) It found the controller and the CD-ROM(disk has to be present in the drive), all tests pass OK. It even does a read test. Interestingly it doesn't need any drivers to read the CD. So yeah, for now the drive is back to life.
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Re: CD-ROM in DOCK I (3545) stopped working

#6 Post by Misu » Mon Nov 18, 2024 5:32 pm

Thank you for the update. Glad to hear that the drive is "kicking" again. I just hope it will stay alive for o long time now. It is hard to say what caused that temporary malfunction. But it really looks like some contact problem. I am still thinking about making a collection of such utilities and helpful programs and put them somewhere together. But it is hard to find enough time to make a usable web page from that. Something that is easy to navigate in (and web 1.0 / old browser compatible). There is a lot of forgotten ThinkPad stuff spread all over the net.

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