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Windows 10 Now Require a Minimum of 32GB Storage Space -- April 2019

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Windows 10 Now Require a Minimum of 32GB Storage Space -- April 2019

#1 Post by w0qj » Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:41 pm

As of April 2019: Windows 10 Now Requires a Minimum of 32GB Storage Space on your hard drive or SSD.
www.extremetech.com/extreme/290401-wind ... rage-space

Mainly more HDD/SSD storage space for Win10 upgrades.

This has implications for older ThinkPads, and for those whose HDD/SSD are almost full.
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Re: Windows 10 Now Requires a Minimum of 32GB Storage Space -- April 2019

#2 Post by kfzhu1229 » Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:19 pm

Before I had a copy of x86 Windows 10 running on a 32GB mSATA SSD for a T430u, and it didn't take long before the drive is totally filled, despite installing all apps and data on the HDD. Made the upgrade to a 256GB one and never regretted it (despite the price tag).
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Re: Windows 10 Now Requires a Minimum of 32GB Storage Space -- April 2019

#3 Post by Puppy » Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:04 pm

You can use empty USB flash drive as a temporary storage for the upgrade.
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Re: Windows 10 Now Requires a Minimum of 32GB Storage Space -- April 2019

#4 Post by skx » Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:41 pm

It seems they will launch the sequel of candy crush any day now with the additional storage requirement :mrgreen:
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Re: Windows 10 Now Requires a Minimum of 32GB Storage Space -- April 2019

#5 Post by olex126 » Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:59 pm

And to think....

My first install of a Windows GUI (Windows for Workgroups 3.11) required all of 8 MEGABYTES :banana:

Where will it end??

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Re: Windows 10 Now Requires a Minimum of 32GB Storage Space -- April 2019

#6 Post by kfzhu1229 » Wed May 01, 2019 11:59 pm

olex126 wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:59 pm
Where will it end??
It won't end, but the hardware upgrading cycle is slowing down at least. Tbh 32GB requirement isn't really a problem for me. My ThinkPad T43 came with 40GB HDD (Being the first ThinkPad that can actually run Windows 10 setup)… I get that the 32GB mSATA users are gonna be in trouble, but they are already in trouble as I have attempted that 2 years ago that ended up with <100MB free space (and lots of wear on the drive as a result)
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Re: Windows 10 Now Requires a Minimum of 32GB Storage Space -- April 2019

#7 Post by Thinkpad4by3 » Thu May 02, 2019 8:06 am

olex126 wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:59 pm
And to think....

My first install of a Windows GUI (Windows for Workgroups 3.11) required all of 8 MEGABYTES :banana:

Where will it end??

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Man, that takes up nearly all of my 10MB MFM drive!! What will I do now?

(but really I don't see this a problem in a day and age where you can buy a 128gb SSD for 20$ at the local shop)
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Re: Windows 10 Now Requires a Minimum of 32GB Storage Space -- April 2019

#8 Post by w0qj » Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:11 pm

Update/Clarification from MS:

www.tomshardware.com/news/windows-10-ma ... 39576.html

"...[Microsoft] clarified that the 32GB requirement is only for new devices from its OEM partners."

ie: Older devices not affected by this new 32 GB minimum of storage space.

[Edit: Just to clarify, MS said this 32GB minimum requirement is aimed at small form factor Win10 devices such as MS Surface, where the device's total storage perhaps maybe 32-64 GB in size only! Guess MS is prodding the OEM makers to increase their storage capacity.]
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Re: Windows 10 Now Require a Minimum of 32GB Storage Space -- April 2019

#9 Post by Droider » Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:29 pm

I just freshly installed win10 pro 1903 64bit on T430. After all the updates applied, storage used is 23gb in total.
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Re: Windows 10 Now Require a Minimum of 32GB Storage Space -- April 2019

#10 Post by pianowizard » Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:35 pm

I just installed Windows 10 Enterprise 64bit on a Dell Precision T3500 tower, including all updates, and then disabled hibernation and ran Cleanmgr /sageset. Excluding the paging file, this install takes up only 9,595,342,848 bytes, or 8.93 GB.
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Re: Windows 10 Now Require a Minimum of 32GB Storage Space -- April 2019

#11 Post by w0qj » Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:46 pm

Just to clarify, MS said this 32GB minimum requirement is aimed especially at small form factor Win10 devices such as MS Surface or other similar devices,
where the device's total storage perhaps maybe 32-64 GB in size only! Guess MS is prodding the OEM makers to increase their storage capacity.
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Re: Windows 10 Now Require a Minimum of 32GB Storage Space -- April 2019

#12 Post by axur-delmeria » Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:42 am

One of my clients has two Lenovo N22 mini-laptops with only 32GB SSD/eMMC soldered to the system board-- they're practically Chromebooks with Win 8 bolted on. An in-place Win 10 upgrade is impossible. They have to use external HDDs to shuffle documents in and out because the free space is too small.
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Re: Windows 10 Now Require a Minimum of 32GB Storage Space -- April 2019

#13 Post by pianowizard » Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:01 am

axur-delmeria wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:42 am
They have to use external HDDs to shuffle documents in and out because the free space is too small.
Just add a microSDXC card. 512GB ones are now under $100, for example: https://www.amazon.com/Lexar-High-Perfo ... way&sr=8-6
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Re: Windows 10 Now Require a Minimum of 32GB Storage Space -- April 2019

#14 Post by Thinkpad4by3 » Fri Jun 07, 2019 12:40 pm

axur-delmeria wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:42 am
One of my clients has two Lenovo N22 mini-laptops with only 32GB SSD/eMMC soldered to the system board-- they're practically Chromebooks with Win 8 bolted on. An in-place Win 10 upgrade is impossible. They have to use external HDDs to shuffle documents in and out because the free space is too small.
When my (relatively cheap) phone has more space than a laptop...well something is seriously wrong with the laptop. 32GB of storage? I mean my T42p came with twice that from the factory in 2005!
pianowizard wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:01 am
Just add a microSDXC card. 512GB ones are now under $100, for example: https://www.amazon.com/Lexar-High-Perfo ... way&sr=8-6
I'm pretty sure that's the equivalent of plugging a punctured gas tank in a car with duct tape and saying it now has enough gas.

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Re: Windows 10 Now Require a Minimum of 32GB Storage Space -- April 2019

#15 Post by axur-delmeria » Sat Jun 08, 2019 12:34 am

Thinkpad4by3 wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 12:40 pm
When my (relatively cheap) phone has more space than a laptop...well something is seriously wrong with the laptop. 32GB of storage? I mean my T42p came with twice that from the factory in 2005!
It's probably the same as the N22 Chromebook but with Windows shoehorned in. Well, they bought it without consulting me, so that's their problem. :P
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