Standby problem.. R40 goes to standby twice.

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Chiana · #1 Post by **Chiana** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 12:11 am

Just reinstalled XP Pro SP2 on my TP R40. When I close the lid, it goes into Standby. All good and well.

However, When I open the lid up, the machine comes back on for like 20 seconds displays the windows desktop, then goes back into standby, and i have to manually bring it out.

Any ideas?

-Chris

Chiana · #2 Post by **Chiana** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 12:26 am

Just want to add that it appears that hibernating doe sit as well. But into hibernate once. Pull it out of hibernate, desktop comes up for a few seconds, all looks ok, then bam, it goes back into hibernation.

Manual standby does it as well. Fn+F4

Chiana · #3 Post by **Chiana** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 1:22 am

Well, it appears to be fixed. I uninstalled IBM's Power management, and both hibernate and syandby work correctly.

However, now the Fn+F3/F12 doesn't work... I tried to reinstall the driver and it goes back to what it was doing.

Thanx,
Chris

#4 Post by **GomJabbar** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 10:35 am

IBM's Power Management has several features that are interrelated. You probably need to uninstall all of them, then start over and reinstall them.

Some of the Power Management software:
*IBM Power Management driver
*IBM Power Management and Battery Maximiser
*IBM Configuration Utility
*IBM EasyEject Utility
*IBM Hot Key features

Chiana · #5 Post by **Chiana** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 11:11 am

After uninstalling the above listed items this is the remaining IBM software :

Access IBM Message center
IBM ThinkPad Audio features
Intel Proset
Fn On screen display
Scroll lock indicator
Software installer
Thinkpad AMR Modem II
Thinkpad magnifier
ThinkPad Keyboard Customizer Utility
Thinkpad UltraNav driver
Thinkpad UltraNav Wizard
ThinkPad Video features (ATI...)
ThinkPad web navigation keys agent.

Anything else I need to take care of?

I'm going to reinstall the software i have removed through IBM's software installer

Chiana · #6 Post by **Chiana** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 12:15 pm

I reinstalled all the dirvers that are associated with it. However, it still does it, and the only way to make it stop is to uninstall that one Power Driver, but I lose seme of the Fn function keys. Olny F4 seems to work.

-Chris

suandmarc · #7 Post by **suandmarc** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 5:20 pm

Do you see any message on the screen just before it re-enters STANDBY?

Chiana · #8 Post by **Chiana** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 7:29 pm

Yes something to the effect of Preparing for standby...

suandmarc · #9 Post by **suandmarc** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 9:06 pm

The message probably appears very briefly, but try to get a good look at it and let me know what it says.

Thanks

Chiana · #10 Post by **Chiana** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 11:04 pm

Its says "Preparing for Standby"

suandmarc · #11 Post by **suandmarc** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 7:30 am

Do you see the word "eject" anywhere in the message?

Chiana · #12 Post by **Chiana** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 10:48 am

no, it says "Preparing for Standby"

suandmarc · #13 Post by **suandmarc** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 12:17 pm

I have seen a similar problem on A31p's, and it was related to cued EJECT operations which were scheduled, probably by accident, but not used. The cure on the A31 series was as follows:

1.) Click on the STOP or EJECT Hardware icon on the TASKBAR.
2.) Select and actually eject, in sequence, any removable devices which are useable; e.g. Stop the CD-ROM via the TASKBAR icon, then remove by physically withdrawing the device.
3.) Repeat this sequence until there are no devices left to eject.
4.) Re-boot the computer with all devices still removed, and test the STANDBY function.
5.) If problem is resolved, you now know ONE possible cause for such bizarre behavior.
6.) Successful or not, perform a SHUTDOWN and re-insert any removed devices.

Let us know how it goes, and GOOD LUCK!

Chiana · #14 Post by **Chiana** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 12:34 pm

Thats not the problem. The problem has to do with IBM's Power management driver. Once that is removed it is fine. However, I lose teh function of the Fn+F3, F5, anf F12.

#15 Post by **GomJabbar** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 1:05 pm

Are your BIOS and Embedded Controller updated to the latest versions, and are you using the correct versions for your machine type?

Software and Device Drivers - ThinkPad R40, R40e

dsvochak · #16 Post by **dsvochak** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 1:08 pm

I'm going to reinstall the software i have removed through IBM's software installer

The readme's for the IBM utilities indicate that they have to be installed in a particular order. And some of the things that are needed for the power management driver need other things to be installed before they will work properly.

You may have to uninstall everything, start all over, and install the IBM stuff in the order described in the various utility's readme installation instructions. And I would do it manually instead of using the software installer in order to make sure they were installed in the particular order required.

Chiana · #17 Post by **Chiana** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 1:38 pm

GomJabbar wrote:Are your BIOS and Embedded Controller updated to the latest versions, and are you using the correct versions for your machine type?

Software and Device Drivers - ThinkPad R40, R40e

I know the bios is updated.. the only thing that I haven't updated the firmware on is the hardd rive.. wasn' sure if that was suggested. What else can I update besides teh Bios and the harddrive firmware?

Yes, I am dling the correct versions for my machine.

Chiana · #18 Post by **Chiana** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 1:39 pm

dsvochak wrote:
I'm going to reinstall the software i have removed through IBM's software installer
The readme's for the IBM utilities indicate that they have to be installed in a particular order. And some of the things that are needed for the power management driver need other things to be installed before they will work properly.

You may have to uninstall everything, start all over, and install the IBM stuff in the order described in the various utility's readme installation instructions. And I would do it manually instead of using the software installer in order to make sure they were installed in the particular order required.

Where is this readme? I ftehre is a particualr order I did not know about that.

-Chris

dsvochak · #19 Post by **dsvochak** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 2:00 pm

Go here for the device driver matrix http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-46024

Each of the individual driver pages has a link to a readme file. There are also general installation instructions on each page which, to an extent, indicate the items which must be installed before the particular item.

By the time you're done reading all the various installation instructions, you may need a list of the order things need to be installed.

This is just an oddity. Certain things need to be installed before other things will work, even if you don't intend to use them. Easy Eject is required for other things. I never use Easy Eject, but if I uninstall it other things break. I have no explanation for why that's the case, it just is.

Chiana · #20 Post by **Chiana** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 5:08 pm

I was only able to find two packages that needed other ones installed first. Keyboard customized needed Hot Key Features and power management driver installed. Think pad configuration utility needed Battery Maxamizer, Presentation director, and Easy Eject installed prior.

I also verified that the Bios and Embeded controller were up to date.

I uninstalled: Hot Key features, Power Management driver, Keyboard customizer, Battery maxamizer, Presentation director, easy eject utility, and think pad configuration.

Then I reinstalled in this order:
1) Power management driver
2) Hotkey Features
3) Keyboard customizer

4) Battery maxamizer
5) Presentation director
6) easy eject utility
7) Thinkpad configuration

I performed the restart after each.

However, the same thing happens. I put it in standby (either by closing the lid or Fn+F4). It goes into standby fine. I bring it out of standby, eithe rby opening the lid or pressing Fn alone. It comes on, windows comes up, and a few second later it goes into a second standby.

Disabling "Powermanagement Driver" is teh only way to fix this, but I lose some of teh Fn keys.

-Chris

dsvochak · #21 Post by **dsvochak** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 12:40 pm

I'm out of suggestions except for this. See this post for a discussion of the PM driver on Windows update: http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=14040

The version I get to on the IBM site is 1.32. The one on windows update appears to be 1.33. Some of the posts in the thread indicate problem with version 1.33. I don't see the version you're using shown anywhere in this thread. You may want to check that as described below

Method 1
If you have the original extracted files, find the DISKKU.VER file. You can see the version information using a text editor.

Method 2
Check the date stamp of the IBMPMDRV.SYS file under the SYSTEM32\DRIVERS directory. For example, 1:00 means Version 1.00.

If your at 1.33, you may want to revert to 1.32. If you're at 1.32, you may want to try 1.33 (or if you've got it available 1.31 or whatever used to work)

Anyway, good luck.

Chiana · #22 Post by **Chiana** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 1:03 pm

Thanx. I am out of ideas too. I also tried the MSFT version, and the latest IBM one (1.32) and both displayed the same problems.

I don't have any older versions, do you know is IBM has them someplace?

If all this controls is some of the Fn+ combos I may just call it quits trying to fix this and deal with not having the missing Fn combos (not all of them are missing).

-Chris

dsvochak · #23 Post by **dsvochak** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 1:38 pm

I can't find any earlier drivers on the IBM site and I don't have an earlier one. It might be worth a Wanted post for version 1.31 or earlier.

msilano · #24 Post by **msilano** » Sun Feb 05, 2006 10:36 pm

I'm having the exact same problem on my T42. Maybe it is the PM driver....have you had any luck?

http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=20252

Chiana · #25 Post by **Chiana** » Sun Feb 05, 2006 10:41 pm

msilano wrote:I'm having the exact same problem on my T42. Maybe it is the PM driver....have you had any luck?

http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=20252

Nope. I just uninstalled the PM driver, and disabled it in the device manager. I lost the function of the Fn+F3,F5, and F12... Fn+F4 still works for standby and I set the hibernation hey to the power button. Standby and Hibernate now work correctly.

I found two other posts about the same problem, replied to them but never heard back from the other people if they fixed it or not.

-Chris

Chiana · #26 Post by **Chiana** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 12:21 am

blah... I saw a new version of the PM driver and got excited that it might work... wrong.. same thing.

Chiana · #27 Post by **Chiana** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 12:45 am

Intresting thing just happened. I removed my CD-ROM drive from the Ultrabay and it suspends/hibertates just fine with the PM driver. Put the drive back in and it goes back to behaving bad. Any ideas?

#28 Post by **GomJabbar** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:52 am

Try this. Go to Device Manager and uninstall everything under: IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers, then reboot. This should fix most problems associated with the CD-ROM (optical) drive installation.

EDIT: It may not hurt to uninstall your CD-ROM (optical) drive under DVD/CD-ROM drives in Device Manager at the same time, before you reboot.

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