Ultimate 14.1" T601 FrankenPads *pictures*

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Ultimate 14.1" T601 FrankenPads *pictures*

#1 Post by micrex22 » Mon Jan 25, 2016 1:07 am

Some folks (such as myself) prefer the 14.1" T60s since they have a nice footprint. I'd like to go through the steps I've done to create two 'ultimate' 14.1" T601s-- both for the displays and the mobos. Typically these conversions are done with 15.1" T60s.

#1 the 14.1" T601 w/ NVS 140 + 1600x1200 display
NOTICE: to some this mod makes little sense as the 14.1" T61 chassis could be used, but you'll have to put up with LENOVO branding on it, asymmetrical hinges and non-white legends for things like the headphone jack etc. Since my old T60p has been through so many adventures with me, I would rather 'keep' the original parts as much as possible. I like the tinkering aspect and didn't feel like buying a T61 chassis when I already had plenty of T60 ones; actually 14.1" T61 chassis are much less common than T60 ones.

This mod uses the later 44C3924 T61 NVS 140 mobo along with a Sharp LQ141U1LH02 display.

A) first you'll need to fit the T61 NVS 140 mobo inside the T60 chassis. This requires cutting a chunk near the modem and one of the standoffs near the GPU. You'll see once you gently slide the T61 mobo inside. I used a stanley 15-809 hacksaw.
B) The original T60 heatsink *cannot* be used as the nvidia GPUs do NOT like the thermal pillows. Don't even try it. I decided to use the W500 heatsink since I already had one on hand and I really like the fan on these. The original T61 heatsink may be more effective, but I'm not sure (probably not).
You'll want to file down the W500's heat block so that the T60 retention bracket can go over it and put sufficient force on the GPU:
http://i.imgur.com/5IzDHan.jpg
The file I used was this one: http://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00A13ZXE4/ref= ... 20_TE_dp_3
Voila, W500 heatsink on a T61 mobo in a 14.1" T60 chassis :p :
http://i.imgur.com/s6D96F8.jpg
Don't forget the T61 VRM thermal pillow, unfortunately the W500 heatsink doesn't cover it entirely, but that should be good enough (the system has not burnt out, and I forgot to install it initially...):
http://i.imgur.com/KFXfD7k.jpg
C) for the display you'll want to take it all apart, and install the sharp LQ141U1LH02. You have to options on cutting the necessary trace: either removing the LQ141U1LH02's PCB (more work), or simply cutting the second trace on the IBM LCD connector (much easier). I went ahead cutting the trace on the IBM cable. Then attach the IBM LCD inverter which is compatible with the sharp display (discard the original sharp inverter). As you can see the 14.1" 1600x1200 display now works inside the T601:
http://i.imgur.com/vWwZzNM.jpg
D) all put back together and you now have an upgraded T61 mobo running comfortably inside a T60 chassis with a *very* cool display:
http://i.imgur.com/atXJD0v.jpg

Temperatures range from 48C to a max of 72C (depending on load). The NVS 140 isn't half bad, I highly recommend these boards over the integrated intel graphics-- which really suffer with high resolution displays and can't even do basic 3D. Intel GPUs are great if you want the thinkpad to run cool though.

#2 the 14.1" T601 w/ Quadro FX 570m + 1600x1200 display
The goal here is getting a 15.4" 44C3931 fitted inside a 14.1" rollcage, and the same Sharp LQ141U1LH02 display if you need :banana:
A) you'll need to hack the magnesium rollcage in a few areas with a hacksaw of your choice (again I used the stanley 15-809 which did the job well). You may need to get creative with some of the angles, try not to scrape too much paint off the magnesium to prevent shorts.
Sawed off a piece at the bottom and top (shiny metal areas):
http://i.imgur.com/23n2B9S.jpg
And also a hole for the card reader:
http://i.imgur.com/KXzVxfK.jpg
B) when re-routing the USB cable you'll need to remove the plastic harness as it gets in the way of the 15.4" mobo. It needs to slink through like this (note the thermal pillow on the bus chip to help dissipate heat to the rollcage, it's under the yellow CMOS battery):
http://i.imgur.com/zEzaP5g.jpg
And here's the underside (you can also see how the 15.4" mobo fits in the 14.1" chassis):
http://i.imgur.com/A8Jcqh3.jpg
C) once that's done reassembly as usual (remember to add the VRM thermal pillow and the optional bus thermal pad).

This system is still waiting on some parts so I don't know the temperatures yet; also haven't decided if I want to go with another W500 cooler. I really do like those things due to the slick fans. And that concludes the ultimate 14.1" T601 builds. I haven't gotten around to BSEL or BIOS mods, may endeavour down that route in the future, but finding SPD-editable SO-DIMMs is a pain.

Making it more 'ultimate' would be doing an LED mod to the 1600x1200 14.1" sharp display, but I'm not going to bother at the moment. I would need a proper work bench instead of using my bed and deep freeze :p
Good information about that here: https://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/think ... styB.shtml


Thanks goes to Andreas for allowing me to pester with questions. And TuuS for the mobos.

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#2 Post by dr_st » Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:16 am

micrex22 wrote:NOTICE: to some this mod makes little sense as the 14.1" T61 chassis could be used, but you'll have to put up with LENOVO branding on it, asymmetrical hinges and non-white legends for things like the headphone jack etc. Since my old T60p has been through so many adventures with me, I would rather 'keep' the original parts as much as possible. I like the tinkering aspect and didn't feel like buying a T61 chassis when I already had plenty of T60 ones; actually 14.1" T61 chassis are much less common than T60 ones.
The Lenovo branding is one thing that does not bother me. Actually, there are plenty of T60 chassis / lids with Lenovo logs, and even some T61 with IBM logos, and in any case they are interchangeable. I think the port markings (white paint or engraved) can also vary between chassis of the same model. I've seen T60 bases with engraved markings.

Asymmetrical hinges and screen bezel are a personal turn-off for me, however, so to me your mod makes a lot of sense. :)
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Re: Ultimate 14.1" T601 FrankenPads *pictures*

#3 Post by RealBlackStuff » Mon Jan 25, 2016 6:00 am

Congratz on a nice FrankieBoy!
micrex22 wrote:actually 14.1" T61 chassis are much less common than T60 ones.
If you only had asked...
I'm sitting on a few boxes full of T61 14.1" bottoms and chassis, leftovers from 15" Frankies...

Forum member xyz was the last one (back in 2008/2009) to put a (Sharp) UXGA screen in 1 14.1" machine: http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=69978
The complaint then was, that the screen was rather dark. Is yours better?
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Re: Ultimate 14.1" T601 FrankenPads *pictures*

#4 Post by micrex22 » Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:39 am

dr_st wrote:The Lenovo branding is one thing that does not bother me. Actually, there are plenty of T60 chassis / lids with Lenovo logs, and even some T61 with IBM logos, and in any case they are interchangeable. I think the port markings (white paint or engraved) can also vary between chassis of the same model. I've seen T60 bases with engraved markings.

Asymmetrical hinges and screen bezel are a personal turn-off for me, however, so to me your mod makes a lot of sense. :)
I've only ever seen the early T60s have the white legends (later production units have them engraved)-- may differ for T61s. I prefer the white legends so I can actually see them instead of feel them like braille :p
RealBlackStuff wrote:Congratz on a nice FrankieBoy!
micrex22 wrote:actually 14.1" T61 chassis are much less common than T60 ones.
If you only had asked...
I'm sitting on a few boxes full of T61 14.1" bottoms and chassis, leftovers from 15" Frankies...

Forum member xyz was the last one (back in 2008/2009) to put a (Sharp) UXGA screen in 1 14.1" machine: http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=69978
The complaint then was, that the screen was rather dark. Is yours better?
Schwabenpad parts? :lol:

Yeah if anything the Sharp is brighter than the LG-Philips displays (which aren't very bright to begin with). *My* complaint is that the matte coating has a slight frosting effect which the LG-Philips doesn't have. But then the LG-Philips has this weird alias with its green pixels due to how they're arranged that the Sharp doesn't exhibit...

At the end I love the larger resolution, so, Sharp is the way to go.

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Re: Ultimate 14.1" T601 FrankenPads *pictures*

#5 Post by Pete B » Tue Jan 26, 2016 6:14 pm

Nice work!

I had not heard about that panel before, do you have a good source to buy
them from? Is there a particular model Dell or anything common that has
that display as an option to use as a donor?
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Re: Ultimate 14.1" T601 FrankenPads *pictures*

#6 Post by fatpolomanjr » Tue Jan 26, 2016 8:08 pm

I really love the T61 in my sig. The only reason I changed it to a 15" T601 was the longevity and brightness benefits of an LED display. If I could get my hands on a proper 14.1" LED SXGA+ or UXGA display I would be all over it. Just seeing a UXGA display in one of these is pretty awesome.
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Re: Ultimate 14.1" T601 FrankenPads *pictures*

#7 Post by micrex22 » Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:36 pm

Pete B wrote:Nice work!

I had not heard about that panel before, do you have a good source to buy
them from? Is there a particular model Dell or anything common that has
that display as an option to use as a donor?
I didn't know about it either until I saw RBS mentioned it in a footnote. Would have done that mod a long time ago had I known. Would have also done the T61 mobo swaps as well had I known. But I do now, so I did :P

Only seller I could find is this place: http://www.impactcomputers.com/lq141u1lh02.html
(note: the quality of the LCD could potentially be C grade, or B grade at the most)

I'd rate mine a B grade, but it has weird markings when certain colours are displayed (like grey) which make it a Grade C in those situations. Not sure if that's due to some form of liquid damage that caused condensation behind the liquid crystal matrix. A few scrapes as well. But I can put up with it since I love the extra res.

If you do plan on buying one I can send you a photo of how I doctored the thinkpad LCD cable.
fatpolomanjr wrote:I really love the T61 in my sig. The only reason I changed it to a 15" T601 was the longevity and brightness benefits of an LED display. If I could get my hands on a proper 14.1" LED SXGA+ or UXGA display I would be all over it. Just seeing a UXGA display in one of these is pretty awesome.
When the backlight fails I'll try an LED mod (totally possible but awful and irritating at the same time); until then the existing backlight is perfectly fine. LED backlit displays tend to have an annoying refresh flicker anyways. I mean I use LED displays at work, but every so often on the corner of my eye I'll see a bit of a refresh due to the PWM circuit. So if an LCD is cold cathode, enjoy that cold cathode while it lasts :wink:

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#8 Post by RealBlackStuff » Fri Jan 29, 2016 5:58 am

micrex22 wrote:If you do plan on buying one I can send you a photo of how I doctored the thinkpad LCD cable.
Apparently all it needs is disconnect one pin... see http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.ph ... 03#p479703
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