What do I need to bluetooth on T41 and/or 42?

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Guest · #1 Post by **Guest** » Wed Jun 09, 2004 11:05 pm

After I get my new notebook I plan on getting bluetooth to give me some more space in my dorm. Question is what does the T42 or all laptops in general require to bluetooth? Basically right now the bluetooth would be used with my printer because desks are tight in the dorm.

On belkin's website they have a bluetooth pc card.
http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductP ... _Id=140149

They also have a bluetooth usb adapter
http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductP ... _Id=126336

Both of them seem to do the same thing but do they? Do I choose which one or is the pc card for my laptop and the adapter for my printer?

Which one fits best with the T42 or in general which do you guys prefer?

G-Man · #2 Post by **G-Man** » Wed Jun 09, 2004 11:15 pm

First of all, what is the type number of your TP? Your TP might be Bluetooth upgradeable. If you post the type number I can check if it has the Bluetooth antenna installed in the LCD.

Regards,
G-Man

Guest · #3 Post by **Guest** » Wed Jun 09, 2004 11:53 pm

the Thinkpad i would be buying from my school would be a T42 2373-6VU?

What do you mean by upgradeable? The pc comes as is through the school.

G-Man · #4 Post by **G-Man** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 12:17 am

Unfortunately your TP is not Bluetooth upgradeable, meaning that the Bluetooth antenna is not built in the LCD. Some models come with Bluetooth antenna already in the LCD. These models can be easily upgraded with Bluetooth by switching the 56k modem daughter card with a Bluetooth and modem combo daughter card. So, either use a PCMCIA Bluetooth card, or a USB one. The PCMCIA’s antenna would stick out a little but you don’t have to remove every time when you carry the TP around. The USB BT is like a memory key, and would stick out even more. I would buy the PC Card one.

Regards,
G-Man

Guest · #5 Post by **Guest** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 9:23 pm

Thank You very much so I should get the card. I have another question but I guess i would prefer links or something to my quesions?I dont want to be the one to ruin the forum this is after all a T series forum. however what do i need for my printerto bluetooth? it is already compatible. how do all your bluetooth devices work? Must I get and usb adapter for the printer and every bluetooth capable device in the future?

G-Man · #6 Post by **G-Man** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 9:30 pm

What printer do you have (brand, model)? If your printer is Bluetooth capable then you don't need anything. If not, then you need an adapter for it. Your laptop should be able to communicate with every Bluetooth devices (headsets, printers, mices etc.) automatically (theoretically). You can also use your laptop's infrared port to connect to the printer (if the printer has one infrared port).

Regards,
G-Man

Leon · #7 Post by **Leon** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 9:35 pm

if your printer already has bluetooth, you don't need anything else other than the card in your pc... if the printer doesn't have it, you need an adapter such as this... http://www.mpitech.com/bpa/

Skywing · #8 Post by **Skywing** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 9:44 pm

G-Man wrote:First of all, what is the type number of your TP? Your TP might be Bluetooth upgradeable. If you post the type number I can check if it has the Bluetooth antenna installed in the LCD.

Regards,
G-Man

is the 3VU upgradable?

G-Man · #9 Post by **G-Man** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 9:49 pm

Nope. Models that already have BT antenna in the LCD, so upgradeable without voiding the warranty:

14" LCD:
2373-42x, 4Ax, A2x
2373-2Fx, 4Fx, 4Gx, 4Px, AFx
2373- 4Zx, 6Zx, 7Zx, AWx
2378-EMx
2378-DTx, DUx, ETx, EUx, FTx
2373-32x, 33x, 3Cx, 42x, 4Ax, 58x, 91x, 92x, 93x, 94x, 96x, 9Cx, A1x, A8x, A9x, G1x, G2x, G3x, G4x, G5x, G6x
2373-3Fx, 3Hx, 3Px, 5Qx, 5Rx, 9Ex, 9Fx, 9Gx, 9Jx, 9Hx, 9Kx, AEx, AJx, AKx, AMx, BHx, ANx, GEx, GGx, GHx, GJx, GKx, GLx, GMx
2373-3Ux, 3Zx, 9Ux, 9Vx, 9Wx, 9Yx, BTx, BVx, BXx, BYx, BZx, GRx, GSx, GTx, GVx, GXx, GYx, GZx, GWx, KTx, KUx
2374-9Cx
2374-3Hx, GGx
2374-8Wx, 9Wx, GTx
2378-DEx, EEx, EKx, ENx, EPx
2378-EVx, FVx
2379-D5U, D6U
2379-DJx, ESx

15" LCD:
2373-3Xx, 3Yx, 8Yx, AYx, BUx, CUx, Cvx, CWx, CXx, CYx, JXx
2374-3Xx
2378-DXx, EXx, EYx
2379-DXx, EYx
2373-AZx, HTx, HVx, HWx, HXx, HYx, KXx, KYx, KZx
2374-7Xx, HTx
2378-DYx, EZx
2379-DYx, EZx

Regards,
G-Man

Guest · #10 Post by **Guest** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 9:52 pm

Thanks I have an epson stylus C82. It is bluetooth capable but does not come with it so I do have to get to get a bluetooth printer adapater. However that seems kind of hard. I went to best buy's website could not find it there. Went to Belkin's website they dont have one. I thougth bluetooth technology has been out awhile. And even though few people are using it I figured printers adapters would be easier to find.

http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/cons ... y=Products

Leon · #11 Post by **Leon** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 9:56 pm

here it is, but yipes.. it's expensive!!!
http://www.academicsuperstore.com/marke ... tNo=709619

Guest · #12 Post by **Guest** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:01 pm

After reading some of the reviews for the adapters I dont understand bluetooth. I mean could I just get close to someone else and start printing off of their bluetooth printer. Where is the security? Some of them said just plug the usb adapter and wait for your computer to recognize the printer?.

Leon · #13 Post by **Leon** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:09 pm

no security... but VERY short range....

G-Man · #14 Post by **G-Man** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:09 pm

Yeah it's [censored] expensive. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/control ... sku=274283

This one is chaper, and universal: http://iocombo.com/product/showproduct. ... storeid=11

Regards,
G-Man

Leon · #15 Post by **Leon** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:14 pm

yeah, you can buy another printer for that much!!!!

Guest · #16 Post by **Guest** » Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:20 pm

Thanks Guys I won't be buying that till september till I go back to school. Or at least until I get over the fact that I spent $2000 dollars on a laptop. It will be worth it but to see $2000 dollars to go away. i still need money for books.

darrenf · #17 Post by **darrenf** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 12:09 am

G-Man,

How did you determine which models are bluetooth-upgradable? I'm looking at the 2378-FVU and find that to be great news.

Will I still have to scratch the LED cover strip (from the inside) to see the bluetooth LED light up? The hack job I did on my T41 looks pretty nasty!

It would be great if the strip came with the bluetooth icon on it already.

-darren

G-Man · #18 Post by **G-Man** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 12:58 am

It's very simple. If you have a 14" model you go here: http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-46502 if you have a 15" model you go here: http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-55304 For 14" models check section 5, for 15" models check section 4 (Bluetooth wireless antenna assembly). If your machine is listed, then the BT antenna is already installed in the LCD.

According to csv96, the LED cover is really just a cover. The BT led is already there. I never did the BT LED cover install, but csv96 did, and he used a razor. Well, looking at my non-BT LED cover, you definetely have to use something very thin.

Regards,
G-Man

csv96 · #19 Post by **csv96** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 1:11 am

It's definitely more of a sticker than a plastic cover.

Actually, credit should go to tselling for discovering this upgrade possibility on her 237358U (old post on the original forum I think).

darrenf · #20 Post by **darrenf** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 1:16 am

Where would I start looking for the PN on that sticker? I'm interested in the one for the outside of the case as well.

Which raises the question: Why would you need to know the status of bluetooth when your laptop case is closed? Wireless is not indicated there, so why is bluetooth?

-darren

csv96 · #21 Post by **csv96** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 1:25 am

It's in the link in G-Man's post above. Scroll down to the very bottom and look for "Clear plate". The part actually comes with 4 stickers (front non-bluetooth, front bluetooth, back non-bluetooth, back bluetooth).

I think you can set your computer to wake on Bluetooth command so the indicator on the back of the screen lets you know that Bluetooth is on while your computer is suspended with the lid closed.

darrenf · #22 Post by **darrenf** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 1:44 am

Wake on bluetooth - crafty!

Thanks for the pointer on where to get the sticker PN.

-darren

jomar · #23 Post by **jomar** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 7:01 pm

Unfortunately your TP is not Bluetooth upgradeable, meaning that the Bluetooth antenna is not built in the LCD. Some models come with Bluetooth antenna already in the LCD. These models can be easily upgraded with Bluetooth by switching the 56k modem daughter card with a Bluetooth and modem combo daughter card. So, either use a PCMCIA Bluetooth card, or a USB one.

G-man, you amaze me. How do you find all these esoteric links like the bluetooth led antenna tape cover?

Anyway, where do I find the bluetooth/modem daughter card you mentioned? And how much? How to install?

Thanks.

G-Man · #24 Post by **G-Man** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 7:54 pm

You can find the FRU part number here (section 8.). Depending on what TP you have (T40/p, T41/p, T42/p), copy/paste the FRU number into here and order it. The price of the IBM Integrated Bluetooth III with 56K Modem (BMDC-2) for T42/p is $66.50, the IBM Integrated Bluetooth with 56K Modem (BMDC) for T40/p, T41/p is $90.75.

Communication daughter card (CDC) installation movie:
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-51452

Instrucion of removing and installing the modem daughter card:
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-52643

Tape for Bluetooth wireless antenna (section 9.):
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-46502

Regards,
G-Man

jomar · #25 Post by **jomar** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 8:29 pm

As the hipsters in LA say, "You are on the pulse!"

Thanks, G-Man. I sincerely appreciate your efforts.

csv96 · #26 Post by **csv96** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 8:48 pm

The tape is only required if you plan to buy and install the bluetooth wireless antenna in the LCD screen. Otherwise all you really need is the card.

phat_mats · #27 Post by **phat_mats** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 2:59 pm

I noticed in the new TABOOK some of the thinkpads have CDCmodem/bluetooth ... does this mean you already have the blue tooth card in there and it is ready to roll right out of the box or is this just in reference to the antenna and the card still has to be upgraded

G-Man · #28 Post by **G-Man** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 3:16 pm

Yep, those models already have the Bluetooth antenna and card, so they are ready to roll.

Regards,
G-Man

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