2015 X1 Carbon refresh

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twistero · #1 Post by **twistero** » Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:31 am

Oh hi there, F-keys and TrackPoint buttons. It's good to see you back.

Press release
The Verge article, with photos

As said above, Lenovo brought back physical F-keys and physical TrackPoint buttons with this iteration. It gets the newest Broadwell i5 CPU.

The T/X/L/E series get their -50 models as well, and they also have physical TrackPoint buttons.

dr_st · #2 Post by **dr_st** » Mon Jan 05, 2015 5:51 am

Now just bring back the classic 7-row layout, and the last few generations will be forgotten as some bad dream.

Yeah, right.

Puppy · #3 Post by **Puppy** » Mon Jan 05, 2015 5:57 am

Low 3K resolution max again. Even Acer offers 4K Sharp display

Puppy · #4 Post by **Puppy** » Mon Jan 05, 2015 6:42 am

dr_st wrote:Now just bring back the classic 7-row layout, and the last few generations will be forgotten as some bad dream.

It think this is impossible, as the LED status indicators.

rd84 · #5 Post by **rd84** » Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:42 am

I noticed last year how the old style clicky chunky keyboards have made a come back for gamers on desktops and now on the new MSi gaming Laptop. https://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/ta0_1J ... 7879.0.jpg

I think Lenovo's decision to go with the trendy button style keyboard was misguided (similarly as bad as the Royal Mail's disastrous decision to re-brand in an attempt to be trendy and up to date)
I hope like the Royal Mail, that Lenovo will realize what an asset they had and bring back the old keyboards soon.

Puppy · #6 Post by **Puppy** » Mon Jan 12, 2015 1:35 pm

WOW. That's the keyboard layout !

TTY · #7 Post by **TTY** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 6:53 pm

Puppy wrote:Low 3K resolution max again. Even Acer offers 4K Sharp display

Yes. But as Acer doesn't offer a Hardware Maintenance Manual to users, if the fan get clogged with dust, you need to send the whole notebook in to get the fan cleaned. And that means you need to buy two identical Acer notebooks, in order to have one in reserve while the other one is being serviced. And that is way more expensive than getting one ThinkPad X1 Carbon.

dr_st · #8 Post by **dr_st** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:59 am

TTY wrote:Yes. But as Acer doesn't offer a Hardware Maintenance Manual to users

Fortunately, someone managed to obtain a lot of Acer laptop service guides (among other laptops). I wonder where he got them.

http://www.tim.id.au/blog/tims-laptop-s ... /#toc-acer

Saucey · #9 Post by **Saucey** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:01 am

Thank you dr_st for that link.

This will make any laptop for me to fix up a sinch now.
WOW!

ajkula66 · #10 Post by **ajkula66** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:15 pm

twistero wrote: As said above, Lenovo brought back physical F-keys and physical TrackPoint buttons with this iteration. It gets the newest Broadwell i5 CPU.

Along with either 4GB or 8GB RAM *soldered* to the planar...

#11 Post by **erik** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 7:30 pm

ajkula66 wrote:Along with either 4GB or 8GB RAM *soldered* to the planar...

those who find this a negative are a fraction of a fraction of buyers. sad but true.

rather than rehash my response, see my post here: http://www.thinkpads.com/forum/viewtopi ... 53#p748553

with that said, i don't disagree with you whatsoever. but, i wouldn't expect to see it change on the ultrathin business portables.

bluefruit · #12 Post by **bluefruit** » Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:21 am

I was just look through Lenovo's site comparing the old and new X1 carbon, it seems they changed the paint in the 2015 X1 to a more traditional 'Thinkpad black'? Or is it just the photos?

pianowizard · #13 Post by **pianowizard** » Sat Jan 17, 2015 8:01 am

ajkula66 wrote:Along with either 4GB or 8GB RAM *soldered* to the planar...

Windows 8 doesn't need as much RAM as Windows 7 to run well (and that's just one of the many advantages 8 has over 7...).

ajkula66 · #14 Post by **ajkula66** » Sat Jan 17, 2015 9:14 am

pianowizard wrote: Windows 8 doesn't need as much RAM as Windows 7 to run well (and that's just one of the many advantages 8 has over 7...).

Even if we were to agree on this statement, that has nothing to do with the point that I was trying to make...

I do understand erik's point and am not disagreeing with it either.

Nevertheless, I still find the soldered RAM setup - on a something that's quite an interesting machine otherwise - completely unacceptable.

laowai · #15 Post by **laowai** » Wed Feb 11, 2015 3:41 am

Puppy wrote:WOW. That's the keyboard layout !

pretty, but it's a beast... in terms of size (18.4"), weight (10lb), and price ($3400~$3800).

Dekks · #16 Post by **Dekks** » Wed Feb 11, 2015 10:59 am

pianowizard wrote:
ajkula66 wrote:Along with either 4GB or 8GB RAM *soldered* to the planar...
Windows 8 doesn't need as much RAM as Windows 7 to run well (and that's just one of the many advantages 8 has over 7...).

While agreeing re Win8 i'm struggling to see the reason for soldering memory in, this isn't a 200USD cheapo netbook.

dr_st · #17 Post by **dr_st** » Wed Feb 11, 2015 12:17 pm

Dekks wrote:While agreeing re Win8 i'm struggling to see the reason for soldering memory in, this isn't a 200USD cheapo netbook.

To make the machine slim and compact?

Saucey · #18 Post by **Saucey** » Fri Feb 13, 2015 1:20 am

pianowizard wrote:
ajkula66 wrote:Along with either 4GB or 8GB RAM *soldered* to the planar...
Windows 8 doesn't need as much RAM as Windows 7 to run well (and that's just one of the many advantages 8 has over 7...).

Still not going to use it.

Though I am getting a bit of a hang with it when fixing a few adware/malware ridden PCs.
I have no need as of yet to use one, maybe when I get a multitouch tablet device.

edit:
I wonder if the touchpad of the X1C3 can be used on the 2nd gen X1C given the T440 and X240 can be retrofitted.

pianowizard · #19 Post by **pianowizard** » Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:09 am

dr_st wrote:To make the machine slim and compact?

Correct. In addition, it's a strategy to force people who need more RAM to pay more up front. If expansion slots were available, most people would opt for the smallest amount of RAM when purchasing the laptop, and upgrade later using 3rd-party modules (which wouldn't benefit Lenovo).

laowai · #20 Post by **laowai** » Sat Feb 14, 2015 10:42 am

pianowizard wrote:
dr_st wrote:To make the machine slim and compact?
Correct. In addition, it's a strategy to force people who need more RAM to pay more up front. If expansion slots were available, most people would opt for the smallest amount of RAM when purchasing the laptop, and upgrade later using 3rd-party modules (which wouldn't benefit Lenovo).

It's sleezeball tactics though. We're not morons here, an 8gig stick costs all of $60. Very very very shortsighted.

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