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New x120e
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Re: New x120e
Yes, Lenovo will be releasing the X120e, a fixed x100e, essentially screwing x100e owners with a laptop that over heats and gobbles batteries. Will Lenovo make good on recent purchasers of X100e's, don't bet on it. However, I would certainly like to be proved wrong on this. So go ahead Lenovo do the right thing for your customer base and allow x100e owners to trade up to the x120e.
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Re: New x120e
Finally a post-Z61t widescreen Thinkpad that looks decent! And it's good to know that the X100e's overheating issue will be remedied. Now I know what to upgrade to once my current HP Mini 5101 dies!
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Re: New x120e
Lenovo has a program in place that does "allow" this. Just give your X100e to a friend and then add $400 or so for the X120e that you select! It's a great program!steveg47 wrote:So go ahead Lenovo do the right thing for your customer base and allow x100e owners to trade up to the x120e.
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Re: New x120e
Here Lenovo's promotional video
http://www.youtube.com/v/Sb-ns5f2dV4
official press release
http://news.lenovo.com/article_display. ... le_id=1398
and to round up: the new 2011 products presented at CES
http://shop.lenovo.com/us/products/new-products/
pd: finally with a HDMI port.
My bet: The overheat and battery problem are not going to be solved. For a $400 machine trying to emulate a business class one, I believe they are pushing the limits too much. I learned it the hard way by buying a X100e that continuously overheats and has poor battery life. Then I remembered that I bought it for a very competitive price thinking that I was getting a x201.
Lenovo over promised and under delivered with the x100e.
I don't see how is this is going to be different unless performance is seriously compromised. I won't set the expectations too high. Same initial "official" reviews were made with the X100e and then after rolling out, the overheat problem became a constant for double core users.
Well it is just my bet, probably words from being so frustrated with my Lenovo X100e.
So let's have a positive mind and try to see the glass half full.
by the way: it is just me or the design (the look) of the new X120e is now closer to standard notebook designs (that doesn't stand out from the crowd) and too close to the Edge series. I believe that the X series is loosing its unique and business class look .
http://www.youtube.com/v/Sb-ns5f2dV4
official press release
http://news.lenovo.com/article_display. ... le_id=1398
and to round up: the new 2011 products presented at CES
http://shop.lenovo.com/us/products/new-products/
pd: finally with a HDMI port.
My bet: The overheat and battery problem are not going to be solved. For a $400 machine trying to emulate a business class one, I believe they are pushing the limits too much. I learned it the hard way by buying a X100e that continuously overheats and has poor battery life. Then I remembered that I bought it for a very competitive price thinking that I was getting a x201.
Lenovo over promised and under delivered with the x100e.
Well it is just my bet, probably words from being so frustrated with my Lenovo X100e.
So let's have a positive mind and try to see the glass half full.
by the way: it is just me or the design (the look) of the new X120e is now closer to standard notebook designs (that doesn't stand out from the crowd) and too close to the Edge series. I believe that the X series is loosing its unique and business class look .
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JaimitoBond
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Re: New x120e
the x120e looks exactly the same as x100e. you are looking at the wrong pic, which is a new edge series.larango wrote:Here Lenovo's promotional video
http://www.youtube.com/v/Sb-ns5f2dV4
official press release
http://news.lenovo.com/article_display. ... le_id=1398
and to round up: the new 2011 products presented at CES
http://shop.lenovo.com/us/products/new-products/
pd: finally with a HDMI port.![]()
My bet: The overheat and battery problem are not going to be solved. For a $400 machine trying to emulate a business class one, I believe they are pushing the limits too much. I learned it the hard way by buying a X100e that continuously overheats and has poor battery life. Then I remembered that I bought it for a very competitive price thinking that I was getting a x201.
Lenovo over promised and under delivered with the x100e.I don't see how is this is going to be different unless performance is seriously compromised. I won't set the expectations too high. Same initial "official" reviews were made with the X100e and then after rolling out, the overheat problem became a constant for double core users.
Well it is just my bet, probably words from being so frustrated with my Lenovo X100e.![]()
So let's have a positive mind and try to see the glass half full.
by the way: it is just me or the design (the look) of the new X120e is now closer to standard notebook designs (that doesn't stand out from the crowd) and too close to the Edge series. I believe that the X series is loosing its unique and business class look .
i hope the battery is the same, so if i ever get the new one, i can keep using my battery.
for a cheap computer, i don't mind upgrading more frequently
Re: New x120e
Maybe AMD will finally get their act together with the new mobile platform. This Bobcat platform is supposed to run less than 10W. A dual core 64-bit processor that competes with the Atom on power consumption would be a home run in mobile computing. Depending on how AMD delivers, I could see this as my next laptop, maybe this Christmas, to replace my T61.
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Re: New x120e
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Re: New x120e
Large enter button. Tiny backspace. One giant fail of a keyboard.
Way to ruin a great product. I could never get used to having a minuscule backspace key. Did Lenovo really think that the already cramped keyboard needed a colossal enter key? Who in their right mind actually WANTS that?
Way to ruin a great product. I could never get used to having a minuscule backspace key. Did Lenovo really think that the already cramped keyboard needed a colossal enter key? Who in their right mind actually WANTS that?
Re: New x120e
I think that is only for the Japanese keyboard. If you look at the pictures of the English keyboard, it's the same as the X100e, ie. the enter and backspace keys are almost the same size, the enter being slightly larger.slugg wrote:Large enter button. Tiny backspace. One giant fail of a keyboard.
Way to ruin a great product. I could never get used to having a minuscule backspace key. Did Lenovo really think that the already cramped keyboard needed a colossal enter key? Who in their right mind actually WANTS that?
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Re: New x120e
Oh. Good! I look forward to reading some reviews, then 
Re: New x120e
BillMorrow -- "http://www.thinkpads.com/ and scroll down a bit.."
I didn't get past U1 Hybrid iPad from Lenovo -- so I searched and found this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5DYuVN6nuY
Pretty Cool! Not sure how practical this is going to be, but looks like another fun toy.
I didn't get past U1 Hybrid iPad from Lenovo -- so I searched and found this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5DYuVN6nuY
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Re: New x120e
SEE..!I didn't get past U1 Hybrid iPad from Lenovo -- so I searched and found this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5DYuVN6nuY
you never know what direction a trip to http://www.thinkpads.com will take you..!
this answers the complaint i have about the iPad..
no built-in keyboard..
my only complaint about the keyboard is no trackpoint..!
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She was not what you would call unrefined,
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Re: New x120e
BillMorrow - "my only complaint about the keyboard is no trackpoint..!"
That's a pretty big complaint for me -- I don't like using a trackpad -- I use the trackpad on my S10 because I think it's such a cute little machine -- but I really miss the trackpoint -- Of course there's no trackpoint on my iPad, but the touch screen is awesome and lots of fun to use -- if Lenovo gives us a tablet/touch screen and adds the case/keyboard, they're going to have to add the trackpoint for me to want the new toy
That's a pretty big complaint for me -- I don't like using a trackpad -- I use the trackpad on my S10 because I think it's such a cute little machine -- but I really miss the trackpoint -- Of course there's no trackpoint on my iPad, but the touch screen is awesome and lots of fun to use -- if Lenovo gives us a tablet/touch screen and adds the case/keyboard, they're going to have to add the trackpoint for me to want the new toy
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Re: New x120e
I'm getting old, it seems. A decent ultraportable thinkpad for $400? Yay...
Sandy Bridge will be faster. However, you'll probably get far more machine for your money going Fusion.
Sandy Bridge will be faster. However, you'll probably get far more machine for your money going Fusion.
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Re: New x120e
No, but that particular URL doesn't go in any direction.BillMorrow wrote:you never know what direction a trip to [url]http://.www.thinkpads.com[/url] will take you..!
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Re: New x120e
eeeeeeeeeeeeee
i NEVER claimed that i could type..
here it is without the extra dot..
http://www.thinkpads.com/
thanks for pointing that error out..
i NEVER claimed that i could type..
here it is without the extra dot..
http://www.thinkpads.com/
thanks for pointing that error out..
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She was not what you would call refined,
She was not what you would call unrefined,
She was the type of person who kept a parrot.
~~~Mark Twain~~~
Re: New x120e
Yes, but what if you add the extra dot at the end? http://www.thinkpads.com./
Oh. It... uh... works. Actually, it's become a habit of mine to add it, as it can protect against a few types of basic DNS trickery.
Back on topic, I'm eager to see if 1) the X120e has decent power consumption, 2) if it ships without a comically broken BIOS and 3) if its GPU has decent driver support. If they get all three of those right, I may reconsider getting a netbook.
Oh. It... uh... works. Actually, it's become a habit of mine to add it, as it can protect against a few types of basic DNS trickery.
Back on topic, I'm eager to see if 1) the X120e has decent power consumption, 2) if it ships without a comically broken BIOS and 3) if its GPU has decent driver support. If they get all three of those right, I may reconsider getting a netbook.
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Re: New x120e
and so it does..Yes, but what if you add the extra dot at the end? http://www.thinkpads.com./
Oh. It... uh... works. Actually, it's become a habit of mine to add it, as it can protect against a few types of basic DNS trickery.
and john hobbs has a nice picture of the new lenovo ipad killer..
but two questions..
what happens to that extra dot..?
and
what DNS trickery does an extra dot guard against..
in my limited and ancient experience, extraneous characters at the ends of lines are or were usually stripped off and dumped in the bit-bucket..
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She was not what you would call unrefined,
She was the type of person who kept a parrot.
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Re: New x120e
'.' is the actual root domain of the DNS hierarchy. Nothing happens to the extra dot because it is part of the domain name. By adding it, you explicitly state that is the absolute domain name that you want, no further searching is necessary. When you leave it off, the typical behavior for a DNS resolver is to treat it as a relative domain and use it's search list to complete it. Typically, the resolver has '.' in it's search list by default, so the trailing dot is added implicitly. For example, let's say your search list had 'example.com' in it. If you left off the dot, the typical behavior would be to try 'www.thinkpads.com.example.com.' first, and then 'www.thinkpads.com.'. Also, if you were to just type in 'www', the resolver would try 'www.example.com.' before looking for 'www.'. Only one trailing dot is valid. Multiple trailing dots may or may not be stripped off depending on your choice of browser.BillMorrow wrote: but two questions..
what happens to that extra dot..?
and
what DNS trickery does an extra dot guard against..
in my limited and ancient experience, extraneous characters at the ends of lines are or were usually stripped off and dumped in the bit-bucket..
Re: New x120e
I was just reading on another thread about the x100e compared to the x120e and it mentioned Lenovo’s 11-inch ThinkPad X120e is their slimmest, cutest ultraportable yet.
Yes it is sexy I saw someone write above. Fantastic, have not checked the variety of colours yet though.
Yes it is sexy I saw someone write above. Fantastic, have not checked the variety of colours yet though.
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Re: New x120e
Correct! You win a SYN cookie.uux wrote: '.' is the actual root domain of the DNS hierarchy. Nothing happens to the extra dot because it is part of the domain name. By adding it, you explicitly state that is the absolute domain name that you want, no further searching is necessary. When you leave it off, the typical behavior for a DNS resolver is to treat it as a relative domain and use it's search list to complete it. Typically, the resolver has '.' in it's search list by default, so the trailing dot is added implicitly. For example, let's say your search list had 'example.com' in it. If you left off the dot, the typical behavior would be to try 'www.thinkpads.com.example.com.' first, and then 'www.thinkpads.com.'. Also, if you were to just type in 'www', the resolver would try 'www.example.com.' before looking for 'www.'. Only one trailing dot is valid. Multiple trailing dots may or may not be stripped off depending on your choice of browser.
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Re: New x120e
Will this X120e have the black rubberized coating on the outside? Or is it just plastic?
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JaimitoBond
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Re: New x120e
from what i read it's the same case, the only diff are the new internal components and HDMI port.slugg wrote:Will this X120e have the black rubberized coating on the outside? Or is it just plastic?
so it's just smooth plastic like the x100e.
Re: New x120e
So is the X100e's case any good? I haven't heard anything about the machine other than it was overpriced, ran too hot, and had a terrible battery life.
The X120e looks promising if it'll do what I need. My MacBook Pro was stolen last semester. I was planning on selling it to have the money to pick up an X201, but now I'm kinda screwed in that department. The price of the X120e is pretty much my budget, so I'm really hoping this turns out to be a good machine.
The X120e looks promising if it'll do what I need. My MacBook Pro was stolen last semester. I was planning on selling it to have the money to pick up an X201, but now I'm kinda screwed in that department. The price of the X120e is pretty much my budget, so I'm really hoping this turns out to be a good machine.
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Re: New x120e
I actually love my X100e, it's really a great travel companion. The case is tough plastic, but it doesn't have the high end feel of the T or X-series plastic. It's seems to be better and nicer plastic than on the Edge series machines.
My full X100e review is here --> http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=91405
A picture is here --> http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=92989
My full X100e review is here --> http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=91405
A picture is here --> http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=92989
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Re: New x120e
The X100e is not as bad as you would think reading some posts. It is not slow ( provided you get a dual core, more than 2 GB of RAM and a 7200 RPM disk ). It tend to get hot when the air cannot go in the machine through the bottom vents ( under the machine ) when its standing on a soft surface ( like a sofa ). The price is very low for something better than a netbook.
In my opinion the x100e is the successor of the x61s / x301: Slow but ultra portable machines for managers. More so than the x201 that is a T410 with a smaller screen.
I’m looking forward to the x120e. I’ll buy one for sure this year.
In my opinion the x100e is the successor of the x61s / x301: Slow but ultra portable machines for managers. More so than the x201 that is a T410 with a smaller screen.
I’m looking forward to the x120e. I’ll buy one for sure this year.
slugg wrote:So is the X100e's case any good? I haven't heard anything about the machine other than it was overpriced, ran too hot, and had a terrible battery life.
The X120e looks promising if it'll do what I need. My MacBook Pro was stolen last semester. I was planning on selling it to have the money to pick up an X201, but now I'm kinda screwed in that department. The price of the X120e is pretty much my budget, so I'm really hoping this turns out to be a good machine.
Now: W510, x100e L335
before: R60, x60s, T43, T42, A31, etc....
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Re: New x120e
One of the first real life reviwew of a zacate powered notebook, is not an x120e but is a fairly similar machine
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/17/hp-p ... ion-review
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/17/hp-p ... ion-review
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