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Why do people keep going back to Thinkpad?

#1 Post by Insomniac1971 » Fri Jul 20, 2018 12:55 pm

Admin you should make this sticky.

Why is that people who have had Thinkpad before, and then bought something else, keep going back to Thinkpad?


Is it an quality issue?
An stability issue?
Or the fact that Thinkpad are made to meet military standards where other brands don't brag about this?
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Re: Why do people keep going back to Thinkpad?

#2 Post by GomJabbar » Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:00 pm

The two primary reasons for me are the TrackPoint and non-glossy display. I do appreciate the overall quality as well.
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Re: Why do people keep going back to Thinkpad?

#3 Post by TheForgottenKing » Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:22 pm

Build quality, software/hardware support, great community, price, TrackPoint

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Re: Why do people keep going back to Thinkpad?

#4 Post by packardbell » Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:21 am

trackpoint, upgradeability, and keyboard.

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Re: Why do people keep going back to Thinkpad?

#5 Post by ajkula66 » Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:43 am

Keyboard with 7 rows, Trackpoint, Linux support.
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Re: Why do people keep going back to Thinkpad?

#6 Post by RealBlackStuff » Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:50 am

If you are like me: a Thinkpad fan, and if you have repaired some other brand laptops for friends, you'll know why!
IIRC I have repaired Dell, Acer, Macbook, Toshiba, Gateway, Sony and a few others.
So far, NEC and Fujitsu were the only ones that just needed a new hard disk or SSD. All the others had serious hardware problems.
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Re: Why do people keep going back to Thinkpad?

#7 Post by ajkula66 » Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:56 am

RealBlackStuff wrote:
Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:50 am

Never seen a Panasonic.
As high of a build quality as one is likely to find anywhere, but an absolute horror to work on in most cases.

I agree that the general ease of working on a ThinkPad beats any other laptop that I've personally come across.
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Re: Why do people keep going back to Thinkpad?

#8 Post by theterminator93 » Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:30 am

Trackpoint, keyboard, the ease of upgrading/accessing commonly upgraded/replaced components (e.g. HDD/RAM). The no frills styling is a plus to me as well.

Honestly though my first laptop some 20 years ago was a ThinkPad (I bought it because the price was fair for the hardware specs, and I gravitated towards the IBM brand because that's what the school I was going to was using at the time)... and I've never felt at home using anything else since.
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Re: Why do people keep going back to Thinkpad?

#9 Post by redknight » Sat Jul 21, 2018 6:31 pm

Durability, easy to upgrade, keyboard.

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Re: Why do people keep going back to Thinkpad?

#10 Post by Puppy » Sun Jul 22, 2018 2:37 am

The ThinkPad high quality is becoming a myth unfortunately when it comes to latest models. You can read horror stories about T480s or X1 Carbon 6 build quality issues on Reddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comme ... g_defects/
https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comme ... has_a_few/
https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comme ... s/e2f3ktt/

There is also interesting point that build quality of all current laptops is actually worse than we were used to have several years ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comme ... hese_days/
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Re: Why do people keep going back to Thinkpad?

#11 Post by dr_st » Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:18 am

Puppy wrote:
Sun Jul 22, 2018 2:37 am
The ThinkPad high quality is becoming a myth unfortunately when it comes to latest models. You can read horror stories about T480s or X1 Carbon 6 build quality issues on Reddit.
Are these the best "horror stories" they've got? Judging by the fact that you could always read such stories, we have to conclude that Thinkpad high quality has always been a myth.
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Re: Why do people keep going back to Thinkpad?

#12 Post by Screamer » Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:13 am

For myself and possibly others:
  • The ThinkLight (for older models)
  • The 7-row keyboard (for older models)
  • Fan control (for some models)
  • The lack of a webcam (for some models)
  • Well documented quirks and problems (most models)
  • The hardware maintenance manual
  • Hinges that do not wobble and flop that much (most models)

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Re: Why do people keep going back to Thinkpad?

#13 Post by JaneL » Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:55 pm

Keyboard, TrackPoint, parts
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Re: Why do people keep going back to Thinkpad?

#14 Post by Puppy » Thu Jul 26, 2018 6:21 am

dr_st wrote:
Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:18 am
Judging by the fact that you could always read such stories, we have to conclude that Thinkpad high quality has always been a myth.
I am not sure .... :?
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Re: Why do people keep going back to Thinkpad?

#15 Post by dr_st » Thu Jul 26, 2018 7:03 am

Oh come on, the first guy is the same guy from your third reddit link, and the second guy is the one that famously announced the 6-row being superior to the 7-row because the smiley-shape and more satisfying clanking sound outweighs the productivity loss due to the missing keys. And even he mentions that keyboard quality "lottery" is nothing new, going back at least to the **20 series (and in fact, further back, it's just he probably hasn't been using Thinkpads as long).

The new X1 Carbon may be a bad model with many lemons; this is certainly not the first time it happened; I distinctly remember early Z60t models having many lemons among them as well, for instance.
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Re: Why do people keep going back to Thinkpad?

#16 Post by MikalE » Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:06 am

I've never owned anything but a Thinkpad. I got hooked on IBM products while selling them with RadioShack decades ago. I could not even begin to afford what they were asking for a laptop back then. Some models I was selling topped $4K. But I always knew one day I would own a Thinkpad.

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