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Energy Star means nothing!!

#1 Post by Thinkpad4by3 » Sun Apr 07, 2019 4:12 pm

I don't know if anyone noticed but I find it funny that the W700 came with an energy star logo. I mean It had a QX9300, FX3700M, 400nit dual CCFL display, two spinning hard drives, a DVD drive, and sometimes another display and it is still considered Energy Star? :lol: :lol:
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The efficiency of two screens equally sized with equal numbers if pixels are equal. The time spent by a 4:3 user complaining about 16:9 is proportional to the inefficiency working with a 16:9 display, therefore the amount of useful work extracted is equal.

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Re: Energy Star means nothing!!

#2 Post by TheForgottenKing » Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:25 pm

Thinkpad4by3 wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 4:12 pm
I don't know if anyone noticed but I find it funny that the W700 came with an energy star logo. I mean It had a QX9300, FX3700M, 400nit dual CCFL display, two spinning hard drives, a DVD drive, and sometimes another display and it is still considered Energy Star? :lol: :lol:
No you see, it's power efficient.

Efficient at using tons of power.

I'd be interested in your "powertop" readings
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Re: Energy Star means nothing!!

#3 Post by Thinkpad4by3 » Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:33 pm

TheForgottenKing wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:25 pm
Thinkpad4by3 wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 4:12 pm
I don't know if anyone noticed but I find it funny that the W700 came with an energy star logo. I mean It had a QX9300, FX3700M, 400nit dual CCFL display, two spinning hard drives, a DVD drive, and sometimes another display and it is still considered Energy Star? :lol: :lol:
No you see, it's power efficient.

Efficient at using tons of power.

I'd be interested in your "powertop" readings
Probably limited by my 170W power brick :lol: . It was 35W idling(dim brightness) and 55W browsing(full brightness). My T430 maxed around 75W. Well I'm only going to get a few seconds of run time when my battery only has 3.5Wh and that is not a mistake for 35Wh. 3.5Wh. 4.5% health. I'm not buying a new battery for it. I'm going to put on unigine heaven and see what an FX3700M and Q9000 will do. Let the hellraising begin! :twisted:
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Re: Energy Star means nothing!!

#4 Post by TheForgottenKing » Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:47 pm

Thinkpad4by3 wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:33 pm
TheForgottenKing wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:25 pm


No you see, it's power efficient.

Efficient at using tons of power.

I'd be interested in your "powertop" readings
Probably limited by my 170W power brick :lol: . It was 35W idling(dim brightness) and 55W browsing(full brightness). My T430 maxed around 75W. Well I'm only going to get a few seconds of run time when my battery only has 3.5Wh and that is not a mistake for 35Wh. 3.5Wh. 4.5% health. I'm not buying a new battery for it. I'm going to put on unigine heaven and see what an FX3700M and Q9000 will do. Let the hellraising begin! :twisted:
May god have mercy on your power bill
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Re: Energy Star means nothing!!

#5 Post by Thinkpad4by3 » Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:54 pm

TheForgottenKing wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:47 pm
May god have mercy on your power bill
Oh I'd never try this at home. I'm letting someone else pay for my power! :twisted:

75W and thats ONLY the CPU. Just wait and see when we get the Quadro involved!
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Re: Energy Star means nothing!!

#6 Post by TheForgottenKing » Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:56 pm

Thinkpad4by3 wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:54 pm
TheForgottenKing wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:47 pm
May god have mercy on your power bill
Oh I'd never try this at home. I'm letting someone else pay for my power! :twisted:

75W and thats ONLY the CPU. Just wait and see when we get the Quadro involved!
Here's to hoping my soon-to-be W701ds will be better
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Re: Energy Star means nothing!!

#7 Post by Thinkpad4by3 » Sun Apr 07, 2019 10:19 pm

TheForgottenKing wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:56 pm
Thinkpad4by3 wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:54 pm


Oh I'd never try this at home. I'm letting someone else pay for my power! :twisted:

75W and thats ONLY the CPU. Just wait and see when we get the Quadro involved!
Here's to hoping my soon-to-be W701ds will be better
Ok Unigine Heaven ultra settings + HeavyLoad + Full Brightness = *drum roll* 123W. Yeah you heard me right...123W. This darn laptop uses more energy than my 70" TV. Also temps are a quite respectable 80 degrees on the CPU and 90 degrees on the GPU after 3 minutes.

Edit...full battery life came out to....31 seconds :lol: !!!
Thinkpad4by3's Law of the Universe.

The efficiency of two screens equally sized with equal numbers if pixels are equal. The time spent by a 4:3 user complaining about 16:9 is proportional to the inefficiency working with a 16:9 display, therefore the amount of useful work extracted is equal.

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Re: Energy Star means nothing!!

#8 Post by TheForgottenKing » Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:55 pm

Thinkpad4by3 wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 10:19 pm
TheForgottenKing wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:56 pm


Here's to hoping my soon-to-be W701ds will be better
Ok Unigine Heaven ultra settings + HeavyLoad + Full Brightness = *drum roll* 123W. Yeah you heard me right...123W. This darn laptop uses more energy than my 70" TV. Also temps are a quite respectable 80 degrees on the CPU and 90 degrees on the GPU after 3 minutes.

Edit...full battery life came out to....31 seconds :lol: !!!
Well, the original battery is 85Wh so this isn't too great of a sign
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Re: Energy Star means nothing!!

#9 Post by wujstefan » Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:55 am

It's still around what my eGPU uses itself ;)

And a 1/5 of what a decent desktop eats these days :)

I just noticed that the precision 7520 I've got from my job does NOT have EergyStar rating.
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