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X1 Carbon Gen 12 - Yuck!
X1 Carbon Gen 12 - Yuck!
It seems like Lenovo is still trying to piss us off with unwanted changes. The new X1C12 is going to move the fingerprint sensor once again. From I think Gen 9 on the sensor was in the power button, like in many phones (from a cutout in the palmrest previously), but they now moved it to one of the keys in the keyboard, with is the most stupid thing I've ever heard. Well, maybe not from an OEM point of view, since they will probably save a few cables, a sub-card and some labor to connect the power button. I believe they relocated the power button to the side.
Why is it stupid? Because every time you replace the keyboard you'll have to pay for a fingerprint sensor too. It's like with motherboards: every time you replace a planar you have to ditch a processor, some memory and the wireless card. So much for saving the planet...
But above all, because they keep stealing keyboard keys. Since there is no more "print screen" key, there is probably a new keyboard combination / function to learn.
Also, they finally switched the Ctrl and Fn keys.
But above all, Lenovo is still trying to kill the Trackpoint. They know that'd be the last nail in the coffin (for hardcore Thinkpad fans of course, there will always be someone buying their products Trackpoint or not) so they, AT LEAST, decided to give you the option. So I wasn't mistaken: the X1C12 will come without physical Trackpoint buttons (clickpad) in some version. BUT that's going to be optional because there will be a version with the buttons.
So there you have it: now the Trackpoint buttons are going to be optional.
To be fair, I've heard a lot of people complain about the touchpad (people who obviously has never used the Trackpoint) and Lenovo is just wanting to please that crowd.
Why is it stupid? Because every time you replace the keyboard you'll have to pay for a fingerprint sensor too. It's like with motherboards: every time you replace a planar you have to ditch a processor, some memory and the wireless card. So much for saving the planet...
But above all, because they keep stealing keyboard keys. Since there is no more "print screen" key, there is probably a new keyboard combination / function to learn.
Also, they finally switched the Ctrl and Fn keys.
But above all, Lenovo is still trying to kill the Trackpoint. They know that'd be the last nail in the coffin (for hardcore Thinkpad fans of course, there will always be someone buying their products Trackpoint or not) so they, AT LEAST, decided to give you the option. So I wasn't mistaken: the X1C12 will come without physical Trackpoint buttons (clickpad) in some version. BUT that's going to be optional because there will be a version with the buttons.
So there you have it: now the Trackpoint buttons are going to be optional.
To be fair, I've heard a lot of people complain about the touchpad (people who obviously has never used the Trackpoint) and Lenovo is just wanting to please that crowd.
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Re: X1 Carbon Gen 12 - Yuck!
The trackpoint buttons have been compromised since they got flattened and removed their hinged nature.
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Re: X1 Carbon Gen 12 - Yuck!
On the bright side, it seems like Lenovo did some serious re-design to the cooling system.
With the heat pipe installed that way, it essentially doubles the thermal transfer from the chip
(albeit the surface area for dissipation isn't doubled that way) and reduces thermal concentration.
It doesn't seem that crazy now to run 28W chips on an X1.
With the heat pipe installed that way, it essentially doubles the thermal transfer from the chip
(albeit the surface area for dissipation isn't doubled that way) and reduces thermal concentration.
It doesn't seem that crazy now to run 28W chips on an X1.
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For the sake of ecology I donated all my classic Thinkpads.
X1C9: 1185G7 | 32GB | 1TB | WUXGA | WWAN
X1Y8: 1365U | 32GB | 1TB | WUXGA
For the sake of ecology I donated all my classic Thinkpads.
Re: X1 Carbon Gen 12 - Yuck!
Other problems aside - I'm sad to see the control and function keys switched. I've really come to prefer the Lenovo/IBM way in that regard - much more ergonomic to not have to stretch your finger as far when you need to hit it. You end up using control far more often than function, it makes sense to have it closer to where your fingers are in my opinion.
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Re: X1 Carbon Gen 12 - Yuck!
Ctrl and Fn keys appear to be the same size, shouldn't be too much of a problem to swap the key caps.
Either also swap them in BIOS (if option still available) or use other keyboard programs.
Either also swap them in BIOS (if option still available) or use other keyboard programs.
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Re: X1 Carbon Gen 12 - Yuck!
I get that's possible and all, but the labels would still trip me up. I'd have to relabel them.
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